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Mr Khan on 17 April 2011
sapphi_snake said:
SamuelRSmith said:


Chinese foods? Fireworks? China-Town(s)?

Fireworks aren't a recent invention, food isn't a strong enough influence, and Chinatowns are ghettos.

Modern Chinese scoiety, due to the Communist system, is a colsed society and their restrictions of free speech and free interraction with the world outside their country prevents them from gaining significant influence over the world.

And when speaking of China, where did they get Communism from? Germany (as the origin point) via the Soviet Union). Only parts of the Muslim world and Bhutan exist in a place free from Western values, and the subversive elements in the Muslim cultures are heavily western influenced (and Iran has a very strong basis of Western influence. They were the first middle eastern country to adopt a Constitution way back when)



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psrock on 18 April 2011

Funny thing, the largest group of immigrants in the US  almost every year comes from Europe.

edit.

Actually I was wrong although all together Europe has immigrated the most, these are the countries that has the most immigrants

MEXICO
INDIA PHILIPPINES
CHINA EL SALVADOR
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC VIETNAM
COLOMBIA GUATEMALA1
 RUSSIA

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sapphi_snake on 18 April 2011
Mr Khan said:
sapphi_snake said:
SamuelRSmith said:


Chinese foods? Fireworks? China-Town(s)?

Fireworks aren't a recent invention, food isn't a strong enough influence, and Chinatowns are ghettos.

Modern Chinese scoiety, due to the Communist system, is a colsed society and their restrictions of free speech and free interraction with the world outside their country prevents them from gaining significant influence over the world.

And when speaking of China, where did they get Communism from? Germany (as the origin point) via the Soviet Union). Only parts of the Muslim world and Bhutan exist in a place free from Western values, and the subversive elements in the Muslim cultures are heavily western influenced (and Iran has a very strong basis of Western influence. They were the first middle eastern country to adopt a Constitution way back when)

So you're basically sayin that the West is influencing China, and not vice versa. I also said that China became a closed state after it adopted Communism (Communist states are closed states). The strict control they have on free speech, the censorship and their lack of export of cultural products will prevent them from having a major influence on the world (culturally, which is harder to achieve than economic influence or military influence).



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Rainbird on 18 April 2011

There's no reason to be concerned, cultures across the world have been in constant flux for a few hundred years now, and they were changing before that too.

Many things you consider to be your culture probably came from somewhere else. Your culture only evolved to what it is today because new people moved in and gave their own twist on your culture. Anyone who is concerned about their culture chaning has to realize that what is happening now is the same thing that made their culture what it was in the first place.

Embrace it and make the best of it, rather than shun the change.



pizzahut451 on 18 April 2011
Khuutra said:
pizzahut451 said:

DEATH TO GLOBALIZATION. Every race should have its own identity and should NEVER dissaper or change itself.

All current cultures are built on the bones of previous ones, and are heavily differentiated from previous versions of itself.

The United  States alone is almost completely different compared to what it was two hundred years ago.


And?



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sapphi_snake on 18 April 2011
pizzahut451 said:
Khuutra said:
pizzahut451 said:

DEATH TO GLOBALIZATION. Every race should have its own identity and should NEVER dissaper or change itself.

All current cultures are built on the bones of previous ones, and are heavily differentiated from previous versions of itself.

The United  States alone is almost completely different compared to what it was two hundred years ago.


And?

Can't you read? He's sayin that races and their identities change or disappear all the time. America's identity is totally different then it was 150 years ago.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

highwaystar101 on 18 April 2011

Forget it. This isn't worth the conflict!



Mr Khan on 18 April 2011
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:
Khuutra said:
pizzahut451 said:

DEATH TO GLOBALIZATION. Every race should have its own identity and should NEVER dissaper or change itself.

All current cultures are built on the bones of previous ones, and are heavily differentiated from previous versions of itself.

The United  States alone is almost completely different compared to what it was two hundred years ago.


And?

Can't you read? He's sayin that races and their identities change or disappear all the time. America's identity is totally different then it was 150 years ago.

More to the point that we can't just decide when to calcify our culture, because it was mixing and cultural drift that got us where we are, whose to say when we've got it perfect?



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sapphi_snake on 18 April 2011
Mr Khan said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:
Khuutra said:
pizzahut451 said:

DEATH TO GLOBALIZATION. Every race should have its own identity and should NEVER dissaper or change itself.

All current cultures are built on the bones of previous ones, and are heavily differentiated from previous versions of itself.

The United  States alone is almost completely different compared to what it was two hundred years ago.


And?

Can't you read? He's sayin that races and their identities change or disappear all the time. America's identity is totally different then it was 150 years ago.

More to the point that we can't just decide when to calcify our culture, because it was mixing and cultural drift that got us where we are, whose to say when we've got it perfect?

Very true, but people often fail to understand this.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Kasz216 on 18 April 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Mr Khan said:
sapphi_snake said:
SamuelRSmith said:


Chinese foods? Fireworks? China-Town(s)?

Fireworks aren't a recent invention, food isn't a strong enough influence, and Chinatowns are ghettos.

Modern Chinese scoiety, due to the Communist system, is a colsed society and their restrictions of free speech and free interraction with the world outside their country prevents them from gaining significant influence over the world.

And when speaking of China, where did they get Communism from? Germany (as the origin point) via the Soviet Union). Only parts of the Muslim world and Bhutan exist in a place free from Western values, and the subversive elements in the Muslim cultures are heavily western influenced (and Iran has a very strong basis of Western influence. They were the first middle eastern country to adopt a Constitution way back when)

So you're basically sayin that the West is influencing China, and not vice versa. I also said that China became a closed state after it adopted Communism (Communist states are closed states). The strict control they have on free speech, the censorship and their lack of export of cultural products will prevent them from having a major influence on the world (culturally, which is harder to achieve than economic influence or military influence).

I dunno.  A quick search shows quite a number of American buisnesses and stores.

I mean holy crap Look at all the Wal-marts!

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=mcdonalds&usq=mcdonalds&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

 

See... after they closed themselves off, the British got Hong Kong... and Hong Kong was totally full of western culture... and when it went back to China it basically caused western culture to spread pretty widely.