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PSN vs XBL which is better?

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osamanobama on 01 April 2011
damefan said:
osamanobama said:
damefan said:
Mad55 said:

lol man sounds like you just wanna say you dont like xbox live more than psn and decided to make a thread about it.

This is exactly what he wanted. Me and him were in a long debate over which one is better (and XBL is winning even with the overwhelming amount of PS3 owners here vs 360) and he decided to create a thread with a huge bias and made up facts in the OP.


could you please point out the made up facts i have in the OP, i will be glad to fix it.

and i dont understand how my reason on why I think psn is better is biased

xbl has hardly any dedicated server games (playstation has way more)

Until you have concrete numbers you are just guessing.

xbl has small multiplayer counts, i think the most so far is 24. (psn has 30, 32, 60, and i believe 256)

Developer choice, doesn't matter if its XBL or PSN. Halo would be retarded with 24 players, same with Gears. Those are your two exclusive shooters. You actually think PSN can handle a higher player count than XBL? You think Sony's network is better than Microsofts? You are delusional.

xbl is very closed network (cant get games with features like LBP and Portal)

Once again I say to you Final Fantasy XI was a cross platform MMO on Xbox LIVE. How is that closed? LBP could easily be done on XBL. You are making up facts once again. Find an article written by a professional stating otherwise and I'll retract my statement.

xbl started the paid DLC

I'm pretty sure developer's started paid DLC but once again if you can prove it with an article stating MS started it then by all means go ahead.


if you could please show me some dedicated server games for xbl i will retract my statement.

psn does have more player count in games, nothing is keeping microsoft from having more dedicated server games.

could you provide a link that FFXI was cross platform. xbl doesnt allow for the free sharing of content that LBP has, so yes it would have it. also like gabe newall said, he could put steam onto xbl, but he could for psn.

dlc used to be free on pc (still largely is), until xbl for xbox 1 came, and they forced developers to charge for content, as they continue to do, and Gabe also doesnt like that, he prefers free



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Mad55 on 01 April 2011
mantlepiecek said:
Mad55 said:
mantlepiecek said:

And all of those games put together don't have as much whining about lag as much as COD has. That just proves something doesn't it?

Dedicated servers are wayy superior to P2P, don't even try to argue it. No host advantage, no lag, more players, less glitches(yes, glitches) and it also helps in people playing across the countries easily without lag. It usually doesn't require you to go around in your router settings messing with ports and stuff.

lag in  call of duty?....when ive never had any glitches either sounds to me like your disk is scrathed lol.

I have had lag in Call of Duty 5 and 6, and know of others who have lag as well.

Killzone 2 on the other hand runs like the single player.

oh well my friends had lag in killzone i mean different person different experiences i suppose. Im saying you really cant say its an overall bad online experience because its more good than bad lag wise same for killzone.



babuks on 01 April 2011
damefan said:
anikikim said:

These are the exact reasons why I think PSN is better. You read my mind dude. Even if XBL was free. I would still prefer PSN due to the dedicated servers. Games like Killzone 2, Mag, Resistance 2, and Socom 4 support way more players than what any xbox game can.  So does xbl have any games that support over 30 players ? Guess not because they still use shitty P2P.


You have no idea what you are talking about. Killzone 2 has more players in multiplayer because that is how many players the devs wanted in the game. Mag could have 1,000,000 players and it would still suck, but once again a design choice, not cause PSN is "better" according to you. Socom 4 isn't even out yet. All of those games combined didn't sell as much as COD so I guess it doesn't matter if its P2P does it? This site should have an minimum IQ requirement before posting.

Thank God! you need not say 'Halo'. Halo and COD sales are exception this generation. Every other games sell around 2-5 million. Not bad for something like Killzone, MAG or Socom.  

You 'tried' to rebut only one point OP has made. Logically, you agree with the rest! 



damefan on 01 April 2011
mantlepiecek said:
damefan said:
mantlepiecek said:

And all of those games put together don't have as much whining about lag as much as COD has. That just proves something doesn't it?

Dedicated servers are wayy superior to P2P, don't even try to argue it. No host advantage, no lag, more players, less glitches(yes, glitches) and it also helps in people playing across the countries easily without lag. It usually doesn't require you to go around in your router settings messing with ports and stuff.

Then I guess COD, Halo, and Gears must be that much more superior and fun to have 3x or more the amount of players to put up with it.

O fuckin really?

I am suuuure GT 5 is 100x more fun than Forza since sooo many more people play that game..

Fact is, no. of people playing a game doesn't equal its quality. Until you realise this, you shouldn't even be having a discussion about which one is better because you clearly don't know the difference between popularity and quality.

Metacritic Scores:

MAG-76                                                        Gears of War-94

Resistance: Fall of Man-86                       Gears of War 2-93

Resistance 2:-87                                         Halo 3-94

Killzone 2-91                                                 Halo:Reach-91

Killzone 3-84

I guess everyone else needs to realize this as well. Or maybe the 360 just has better exclusive shooters. I'll go with the latter. Dedicated servers doesn't make a better game.



mantlepiecek on 01 April 2011
Mad55 said:
mantlepiecek said:

I have had lag in Call of Duty 5 and 6, and know of others who have lag as well.

Killzone 2 on the other hand runs like the single player.

oh well my friends had lag in killzone i mean different person different experiences i suppose. Im saying you really cant say its an overall bad online experience because its more good than bad lag wise same for killzone.

Another obvious advantage for dedicated servers: When the community is small, for eg killzone 2, you can actually get a lagless game. The same is not true for any P2P game out there, and Halo and CoD are exception even though they are popular they have lag, although Halo doesn't lag that much.

A game like rainbow six vegas is unplayable for me, even though it has a small respectable community, it lags like sh*t.



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Tiannaisnowhotnotfat on 01 April 2011

XBL is the biggest rip off ever and people are idiots for paying it, if they stopped paying it MS would offer the exact same service for free 



Pjams on 01 April 2011

Free bitches!



 

Mad55 on 01 April 2011
mantlepiecek said:
Mad55 said:
mantlepiecek said:

I have had lag in Call of Duty 5 and 6, and know of others who have lag as well.

Killzone 2 on the other hand runs like the single player.

oh well my friends had lag in killzone i mean different person different experiences i suppose. Im saying you really cant say its an overall bad online experience because its more good than bad lag wise same for killzone.

Another obvious advantage for dedicated servers: When the community is small, for eg killzone 2, you can actually get a lagless game. The same is not true for any P2P game out there, and Halo and CoD are exception even though they are popular they have lag, although Halo doesn't lag that much.

A game like rainbow six vegas is unplayable for me, even though it has a small respectable community, it lags like sh*t.

idk man i can probably bet that people that play call of duty and halo daily dont experience alot of lag, if so why keep playing it.



damefan on 01 April 2011
osamanobama said:
damefan said:
osamanobama said:
damefan said:
Mad55 said:

lol man sounds like you just wanna say you dont like xbox live more than psn and decided to make a thread about it.

This is exactly what he wanted. Me and him were in a long debate over which one is better (and XBL is winning even with the overwhelming amount of PS3 owners here vs 360) and he decided to create a thread with a huge bias and made up facts in the OP.


could you please point out the made up facts i have in the OP, i will be glad to fix it.

and i dont understand how my reason on why I think psn is better is biased

xbl has hardly any dedicated server games (playstation has way more)

Until you have concrete numbers you are just guessing.

xbl has small multiplayer counts, i think the most so far is 24. (psn has 30, 32, 60, and i believe 256)

Developer choice, doesn't matter if its XBL or PSN. Halo would be retarded with 24 players, same with Gears. Those are your two exclusive shooters. You actually think PSN can handle a higher player count than XBL? You think Sony's network is better than Microsofts? You are delusional.

xbl is very closed network (cant get games with features like LBP and Portal)

Once again I say to you Final Fantasy XI was a cross platform MMO on Xbox LIVE. How is that closed? LBP could easily be done on XBL. You are making up facts once again. Find an article written by a professional stating otherwise and I'll retract my statement.

xbl started the paid DLC

I'm pretty sure developer's started paid DLC but once again if you can prove it with an article stating MS started it then by all means go ahead.


if you could please show me some dedicated server games for xbl i will retract my statement.

psn does have more player count in games, nothing is keeping microsoft from having more dedicated server games.

could you provide a link that FFXI was cross platform. xbl doesnt allow for the free sharing of content that LBP has, so yes it would have it. also like gabe newall said, he could put steam onto xbl, but he could for psn.

dlc used to be free on pc (still largely is), until xbl for xbox 1 came, and they forced developers to charge for content, as they continue to do, and Gabe also doesnt like that, he prefers free

if you could please show me some dedicated server games for xbl i will retract my statement.

Battlefield: Bad Company 2

Gears of War 3

Homefront

Rainbow Six:Vegas

psn does have more player count in games, nothing is keeping microsoft from having more dedicated server games.

Dedicated server does not mean higher player count. Its developers choice for the last time.

could you provide a link that FFXI was cross platform. xbl doesnt allow for the free sharing of content that LBP has, so yes it would have it. also like gabe newall said, he could put steam onto xbl, but he could for psn.

http://www.giantbomb.com/cross-platform-multiplayer/92-4183/games/

dlc used to be free on pc (still largely is), until xbl for xbox 1 came, and they forced developers to charge for content, as they continue to do, and Gabe also doesnt like that, he prefers free

Didn't know you and Gabe were on a first name basis. And without Xbox LIVE on Xbox 1 you wouldn't have PSN or it wouldn't be 1/10th what it is today.



mantlepiecek on 01 April 2011
damefan said:
mantlepiecek said:

O fuckin really?

I am suuuure GT 5 is 100x more fun than Forza since sooo many more people play that game..

Fact is, no. of people playing a game doesn't equal its quality. Until you realise this, you shouldn't even be having a discussion about which one is better because you clearly don't know the difference between popularity and quality.

Metacritic Scores:

MAG-76                                                        Gears of War-94

Resistance: Fall of Man-86                       Gears of War 2-93

Resistance 2:-87                                         Halo 3-94

Killzone 2-91                                                 Halo:Reach-91

Killzone 3-84

I guess everyone else needs to realize this as well. Or maybe the 360 just has better exclusive shooters. I'll go with the latter. Dedicated servers doesn't make a better game.

They do. Which is why gears of war 3 is using dedicated servers.