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Mr Puggsly on 12 March 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Mr Puggsly said:
sapphi_snake said:
Mr Puggsly said:

"The hamster died from blunt force trauma, liver damage and a brain hemorrhage, he said."

HAHA! Did they actually do an autopsy on the hamster?

Two years seems harsh. Its just a friggin hamster. Perhaps forcing her to pay fines and possibly take some anger management classes would be better for society. We don't need another person in prison for a friggin hamster.

Hamsters are living beings too. How would you feel of a superior alien species came to earth and one of them strangled you while thinking "meh, it's just a human, no big deal"?

Well I would hope the superior specie pays some fines I guess...

Superior creatures kill other things all the time! That's nature. I mean cat kills mouse, dog kills cat, and some people eat dog.

If a cat doesn't get prision time for killing a mouse than neither should a human. Case closed!

There's a huge difference between killing an animal out of necessity (to obtain food, to defend yourself, to prevent an infestation) and killing animals for fun.

Also, I don't think that dogs are necessarily superior to cats on the evolution scale.

Animals don't just kill for food. But would you have felt better if the woman ate the hamster?

Dogs are superior physically and that's all I'm looking at. Mentally... about the same level. They just eat, shit, and kill something for fun on occasion.



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Jay520 on 12 March 2011
Mr Puggsly said:
sapphi_snake said:
Mr Puggsly said:
sapphi_snake said:
Mr Puggsly said:

"The hamster died from blunt force trauma, liver damage and a brain hemorrhage, he said."

HAHA! Did they actually do an autopsy on the hamster?

Two years seems harsh. Its just a friggin hamster. Perhaps forcing her to pay fines and possibly take some anger management classes would be better for society. We don't need another person in prison for a friggin hamster.

Hamsters are living beings too. How would you feel of a superior alien species came to earth and one of them strangled you while thinking "meh, it's just a human, no big deal"?

Well I would hope the superior specie pays some fines I guess...

Superior creatures kill other things all the time! That's nature. I mean cat kills mouse, dog kills cat, and some people eat dog.

If a cat doesn't get prision time for killing a mouse than neither should a human. Case closed!

There's a huge difference between killing an animal out of necessity (to obtain food, to defend yourself, to prevent an infestation) and killing animals for fun.

Also, I don't think that dogs are necessarily superior to cats on the evolution scale.

Animals don't just kill for food. But would you have felt better if the woman ate the hamster?

Dogs are superior physically and that's all I'm looking at. Mentally... about the same level. They just eat, shit, and kill something for fun on occasion.


True, I have a cat that kills mice. But it doesn't eat them. It just plays with the dead body. Does my cat deserve prison time? 



homer on 12 March 2011

That is ridiculous imo. She should be punished, but 2 years in jail for a hamster? It seems like a large fine, and anger mangement classes would be more suitable for the crime. Then again, who am I decide the value of a hamsters life?



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FaRmLaNd on 13 March 2011

Whilst 2 years in gaol seems excessive, from my limited anecdotal experience, anyone that hurts animals without a rational reason (self-defense, or for food of course aren't included here), can often go on to do further terrible actions, as I think its indicative that that person has some serious issues. But hey, I'm no psychologist, so don't listen to me :P

Cruelty to animals is no laughing matter and of course the person should get some kind of punishment, but only if its supported by rehabilitation, as you don't want someone to go to gaol and get out being worse then when they entered.



sapphi_snake on 13 March 2011
Jay520 said:


True, I have a cat that kills mice. But it doesn't eat them. It just plays with the dead body. Does my cat deserve prison time? 

Does a cat have the intellectual capacity of a human being?



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sapphi_snake on 13 March 2011
Mr Puggsly said:
sapphi_snake said:
Mr Puggsly said:
sapphi_snake said:
Mr Puggsly said:

"The hamster died from blunt force trauma, liver damage and a brain hemorrhage, he said."

HAHA! Did they actually do an autopsy on the hamster?

Two years seems harsh. Its just a friggin hamster. Perhaps forcing her to pay fines and possibly take some anger management classes would be better for society. We don't need another person in prison for a friggin hamster.

Hamsters are living beings too. How would you feel of a superior alien species came to earth and one of them strangled you while thinking "meh, it's just a human, no big deal"?

Well I would hope the superior specie pays some fines I guess...

Superior creatures kill other things all the time! That's nature. I mean cat kills mouse, dog kills cat, and some people eat dog.

If a cat doesn't get prision time for killing a mouse than neither should a human. Case closed!

There's a huge difference between killing an animal out of necessity (to obtain food, to defend yourself, to prevent an infestation) and killing animals for fun.

Also, I don't think that dogs are necessarily superior to cats on the evolution scale.

Animals don't just kill for food. But would you have felt better if the woman ate the hamster?

Dogs are superior physically and that's all I'm looking at. Mentally... about the same level. They just eat, shit, and kill something for fun on occasion.

Animals do not have the intellectual capacity of humans. Shouldn't we try to be better than them? I was talking about what's acceptable for humans to do. I don't care if animals kill eachother for fun.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

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Mr Puggsly on 13 March 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Animals don't just kill for food. But would you have felt better if the woman ate the hamster?

Dogs are superior physically and that's all I'm looking at. Mentally... about the same level. They just eat, shit, and kill something for fun on occasion.

Animals do not have the intellectual capacity of humans. Shouldn't we try to be better than them? I was talking about what's acceptable for humans to do. I don't care if animals kill eachother for fun.

No they don't. Which is why animals are inferior and we hold them to a lower standard. Their lives included.

Now I'm not for killing animals for entertainment, anger, etc. But I sure as hell don't think an animals life, especially a rodent, is worth sending someone to prision.

She should pay a fine and maybe be force to take an anger management class. But the hamster's life isn't worth ruining her life.



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NotStan on 13 March 2011

How can you kill such a cute thing!

 

Although hers might have been feral

 

 



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sapphi_snake on 13 March 2011
Mr Puggsly said:
sapphi_snake said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Animals don't just kill for food. But would you have felt better if the woman ate the hamster?

Dogs are superior physically and that's all I'm looking at. Mentally... about the same level. They just eat, shit, and kill something for fun on occasion.

Animals do not have the intellectual capacity of humans. Shouldn't we try to be better than them? I was talking about what's acceptable for humans to do. I don't care if animals kill eachother for fun.

No they don't. Which is why animals are inferior and we hold them to a lower standard. Their lives included.

Now I'm not for killing animals for entertainment, anger, etc. But I sure as hell don't think an animals life, especially a rodent, is worth sending someone to prision.

She should pay a fine and maybe be force to take an anger management class. But the hamster's life isn't worth ruining her life.

You may think that way, but other people don't!



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Mr Puggsly on 13 March 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Mr Puggsly said:

No they don't. Which is why animals are inferior and we hold them to a lower standard. Their lives included.

Now I'm not for killing animals for entertainment, anger, etc. But I sure as hell don't think an animals life, especially a rodent, is worth sending someone to prision.

She should pay a fine and maybe be force to take an anger management class. But the hamster's life isn't worth ruining her life.

You may think that way, but other people don't!

Well most people probably see it my way. Now I'm gonna go eat an animal...



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