The "He'll kill us al!" scenario will not work, and you really should thin twice before spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt.

In essence, your argument is, in order to ensure the safety of the network, we must give Sony complete control over our PS3s. Do you realise how retarded that sounds, needing to secure cients on a network?

Sony own the network, let them enforce the security from there. Do not let them tel you what can and can't do with the PS3 that YOU PURCHASED. If people want to cheat, who cares, but they cannot cheat on PSN or they're out.

So if doing this stuff was purely ilegal, why are there security measures to begin with?

Your point is a complete and uter shambles, like Sony's attept for cheap security. If you don't want to be hacked, enforce the proper security methods. Everyone else in the world who cares about their property has to. The difference is, a purcahsed PS3 is NOT SONY'S PROPERTY

Actually most did it for "teh powerz of da cell" using a ps3 is the easiest/cheapest way to get access to the cell processor. I believe that is why the air force used it for its super computer and why others want to use it. The cell is a beast of a processor and works in a unique way from what I have been told. Alos alltho they let you install other os it was gimped and not given access to all hardware on the ps3, that is the reason it was opriginally hacked, to get access to the gpu and other spu. I could be wrong. But even though it had other OS it was still gimped, and stll would of bveen opened up more for proper home brew. Can't really make your own games without using the rsx.

While the DMCA states it as illegal, that same law also said it was illegal for him to jailbreak his iPhone. That portion of the law was determined as nonsensical in the courts and so now people can jailbreak his iPhone. It doesn't matter how the senate worded the law, it's up to the judicial system to determine how it should be interpreted. Senators don't know jack about technology and judges know this, so the moral issues will prevail and the PS3 and its firmware will be ours to mod if we feel like it.

People in this thread are just way too emotional because the PSN got screwed. I bet 6 months to a year from now you will have mostly forgotten about it and change your opinions on the subject. Don't let your emotions convince you to take away your freedoms.

yea no duh, radiant is just being dumb right now

he is basically saying "why shoudl sony have to lock their doors, the crooks should not enter the house"

tell that to an insurance agent when all your stuff is stolen.  "where you doors locked?"  "no, why would i need to lock doors, its my house, people should know not to go into it"  LOL

Its a business', hell its everyones job to protect their own things.  If security is lax, it is your job to tighten it. 

Jeez this whole Geohotz thing has been SO FUNNY! Thank you for making the start of 2011 so memorable!

You're simply wrong.

He did nothing to the network, just the PS3 itself.

I can find directions on how to root any Android phone. Its the same thing as him releasing the PS3 master key as all that really is, is the pw to full root access over the entire PS3. Problem is, Sony f'ed up and did something that was critically wrong as that same pw gave access to the PSN as well. That was just stupid.

The day bluray launched, actually before, they master keys to its encryption was also posted online.

These actions are not illegal. They allow you to gain full control over the product you purchased. If I want to remove Verizon's bloat from my phone, I should be allowed to. In fact, had Verizon not locked all that software in there, I wouldn't have rooted my phone in the first place.

Same reason I haven't done anything to the PS3 as there is nothing I really want to change. However, that doesn't mean I forgo the legitimate rights to do so.

At the same time, I don't attack a hacker because of piracy. I attack the pirates for that.

I could beat the shit out of my wife for not listening to me if I wanted to, but I don't because its simply wrong. Same here, I could hack my Wii/PS3 and pirate the shit out of every movie and game in existance, I don't because its simply wrong.

You all need to keep this in perspective as a very real attack on your ownership rights.

There are so many countries, where people leave thier door open. The reason this whole thing started, was being people were trying to crack open the ps3 with the OS feature in the first place! So like you said, Sony was trying to tighten thier security and make sure that no one got in by removing the feature. I am just saying, this would have never happened, if people would just be content with what they purchased in the first place, and not messed with the Sony's OS/network. There no reason to say i am being dumb because i disagree with you, thats just rude.

i was saying you are being dumb for saying its not sony's job to tighten up security.

there is no way that can ever be thought of as a smart way of thinking.  obviously its sony's job to stop hackers or pirates or whatever from doing what they don't want them to do.

You may say its the police's job to stop criminals, but its still my own job to lock my own doors and keep my money safe.  I can't sit a $1000 in my mailbox and hope it to be there cause going into someone mailbox is illegal.  Pretty sure the cops will call me stupid for doing so.

As been pointed out, he wasn't trying to mess with their network, it just was a side-effect.  Its not his fault the key he found opened up every door in sony's house.  That's sony being dumb with their psn

I give up, no point in arguing further. We just have different veiws on consumer rights is all =/