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Killy_Vorkosigan said:

That so funny that Jim Sterling, who plays free games for a living, blames somebody else for playing games for free.

And he is given special treatments by the industry, who regularly sends him goodies or whatever.

Just because he has a big mouth and a tribune does not give him credit for giving lessons.


There's a difference. He is a reviewer and games are sent to him to review. He doesn't steal them.



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Though it will fall on deaf ears.

The real "sin" of piracy by the way....

Is ease of copying... not the copying itself.

 

If someone were to look at the Mona Lisa, and then paint himself an exact replica.  He wouldn't have committed a crime, so long as he didn't try to sell it and kept it soley for his own use.

The difference is, it takes talent to copy the Mona Lisa... while nearly anyone can copy a piece of software or music.



Eh, it's perfectly fine to sell a copy of the Mona Lisa as long as you're selling it as a replica. There are studios that make their money off stuff like that, these paintings are not copyrighted.

The analogy works for modern stuff though, you can always put it under fair use with a non-commercial academic purpose.



Seece said:
twesterm said:
Khuutra said:
Seece said:

I wish we took a stronger stance against game pirates here, like banning them all. They go without any punishement .. heck even one of our MODS is a proud pirate ... disgusting, doesn't deserve to play video games.

We used to do this - BengaBenga was particularly ruthless on this front - and I don't mind it as an idea. That's no excuse for headlines and articles perverting the dialogue, or people perpetuating ass-backwards sound bites (CARL).

Again: all for banning people who brag about their piracy. That's fine. But we should be clear and distinct that we're talking about copyright infringement and not theft.

Oh man, when I was mod, I was constantly wanting to ban people that admitted to pirating.  If ioi would have let me I would have an absolute blast in this thread and hand out permabans with no remorse what-so-ever.  I don't really understand why pirates come to a forum dedicated to the thing they're actively trying to destroy anyways.

Yeah, they have absoloutely no shame. It does make you wonder what kind of people they are in real life, they must have no conscience.

Can you say that out loud without laughing abit? It sounds like a joke!



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outlawauron said:
Seece said:
twesterm said:
Khuutra said:
Seece said:

I wish we took a stronger stance against game pirates here, like banning them all. They go without any punishement .. heck even one of our MODS is a proud pirate ... disgusting, doesn't deserve to play video games.

We used to do this - BengaBenga was particularly ruthless on this front - and I don't mind it as an idea. That's no excuse for headlines and articles perverting the dialogue, or people perpetuating ass-backwards sound bites (CARL).

Again: all for banning people who brag about their piracy. That's fine. But we should be clear and distinct that we're talking about copyright infringement and not theft.

Oh man, when I was mod, I was constantly wanting to ban people that admitted to pirating.  If ioi would have let me I would have an absolute blast in this thread and hand out permabans with no remorse what-so-ever.  I don't really understand why pirates come to a forum dedicated to the thing they're actively trying to destroy anyways.

Yeah, they have absoloutely no shame. It does make you wonder what kind of people they are in real life, they must have no conscience.

Can you say that out loud without laughing abit? It sounds like a joke!

Very easily, it's very telling of a persons personality if they're a theif and proud of it.



 

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Dinomax said:

 

""But but but your sig and avartar are pirated!""

Yes because pirated images are exactly the same as taking a 60 million dollar product, putting it on bittorent and not paying a cent.  When most images here are actually publicy released by the developer for free mass distrubtion.

Yep totally the same argument. 

 

 


Doesn't matter if its not the same. Its being half assed in morality of piracy.

Those who pirate avatar and sigs simply has no right to bash on pirates when they are pirating themselves.

 

Dumping hazardous waste in a river or taking a piss at the bus station differ yes, but both are crimes.  You can't talk shit about company dumping hazardous waste to ruin the environment when you, yourself are dumping chemical from chemistry projects  down your sink and taking pisses on the streets.



It seems to me we tend to forget about the programmers who spend long hours to design and develope our games. In recent weeks many of them lost their jobs, due in a large part to slow sales... sales that would have been higher if everyone actually paid for the great work they have done to entertain us (instead of stealing it).. I do not think any of you would be very happy if you worked all week at a job and then was not paid.... for thats what your doing to these programmers....  I really feel sorry for the families of these programmers who lost their jobs because of self centered pirates...  Pirating hurts real people... not corporations... It is truly sad!



icefaii said:
Dinomax said:

 

""But but but your sig and avartar are pirated!""

Yes because pirated images are exactly the same as taking a 60 million dollar product, putting it on bittorent and not paying a cent.  When most images here are actually publicy released by the developer for free mass distrubtion.

Yep totally the same argument. 

 

 


Doesn't matter if its not the same. Its being half assed in morality of piracy.

Those who pirate avatar and sigs simply has no right to bash on pirates when they are pirating themselves.

 

Dumping hazardous waste in a river or taking a piss at the bus station differ yes, but both are crimes.  You can't talk shit about company dumping hazardous waste to ruin the environment when you, yourself are dumping chemical from chemistry projects  down your sink and taking pisses on the streets.

Talking abot trying to justify it! LOL you know the two don't compare, you're clutching at straws big time.



 

Seece said:
outlawauron said:
Seece said:
twesterm said:
Khuutra said:
Seece said:

I wish we took a stronger stance against game pirates here, like banning them all. They go without any punishement .. heck even one of our MODS is a proud pirate ... disgusting, doesn't deserve to play video games.

We used to do this - BengaBenga was particularly ruthless on this front - and I don't mind it as an idea. That's no excuse for headlines and articles perverting the dialogue, or people perpetuating ass-backwards sound bites (CARL).

Again: all for banning people who brag about their piracy. That's fine. But we should be clear and distinct that we're talking about copyright infringement and not theft.

Oh man, when I was mod, I was constantly wanting to ban people that admitted to pirating.  If ioi would have let me I would have an absolute blast in this thread and hand out permabans with no remorse what-so-ever.  I don't really understand why pirates come to a forum dedicated to the thing they're actively trying to destroy anyways.

Yeah, they have absoloutely no shame. It does make you wonder what kind of people they are in real life, they must have no conscience.

Can you say that out loud without laughing abit? It sounds like a joke!

Very easily, it's very telling of a persons personality if they're a theif and proud of it.

Yes, but despite the same mod that pirates also happen to be a great guy (if we are thinking about the same pirating mod), so where's that theory lead you?

I'm not a big pirate myself. The only thing I download are Japanese PS2 and PSP games. Its not something that I'd flaunt, but I guess I'm 'proud' to play K-ON and Tales of Versus. I guess you can hate on me too.



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And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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Seece said:
icefaii said:
Dinomax said:

 

""But but but your sig and avartar are pirated!""

Yes because pirated images are exactly the same as taking a 60 million dollar product, putting it on bittorent and not paying a cent.  When most images here are actually publicy released by the developer for free mass distrubtion.

Yep totally the same argument. 

 

 


Doesn't matter if its not the same. Its being half assed in morality of piracy.

Those who pirate avatar and sigs simply has no right to bash on pirates when they are pirating themselves.

 

Dumping hazardous waste in a river or taking a piss at the bus station differ yes, but both are crimes.  You can't talk shit about company dumping hazardous waste to ruin the environment when you, yourself are dumping chemical from chemistry projects  down your sink and taking pisses on the streets.

Talking abot trying to justify it! LOL you know the two don't compare, you're clutching at straws big time.


Nope, its your brain that cannot compute.