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Seece said:
icefaii said:
Seece said:
icefaii said:


LOL, stop trying to justify your piracy.

 

piracy are piracy regardless if developers are losing money or not.  ONLY when the developers publicly stated the pictures are distributable and copyable or they lose out on their copyrights to the images then you are able to justify it.  Until then, no, you have no rights to bash on pirates.

 

And welcome aboard mate.

I don't pirate so I don't need to justify anything, if you want to be cheap and steal things you can. I can't physically buy a youtube video or image on the internet, so it isn't stealing.

Do you pirate? if so are you proud and do you condone it?

Oh but you do.  By displaying your sig and avatar you have condone copyright infringement.

Cant buy image or video off internet so not stealing? fucking think again.

 

Please go look up the definition of copyright infringement then come back. thx.

No i don't need to, your justification is pathetic, pirating a game ruins the game industry, using an image does not. They're clearly not the same.

It seems your puny brain cannot comprehend copyright infringement.

Like I said, copyright infringement(unauthorized use of copyright material; since you cannot comprehend) has nothing to do with ruining the game industry or not. You either pirate or you dont. its that simple.

By your definition piracy only counts when it comes to your favourite gaming industry? your ethic is so fucking laughable.



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Beuli2 said:
pezus said:
Beuli2 said:

I won't ever not even in one thousand years with 100% accuracy of 100% chance admit that I'm a pirate. Never.


At least your dog admits it proudly!

Who?

The dog in your profile pic...



icefaii said:
Seece said:

No i don't need to, your justification is pathetic, pirating a game ruins the game industry, using an image does not. They're clearly not the same.

It seems your puny brain cannot comprehend copyright infringement.

Like I said, copyright infringement(unauthorized use of copyright material; since you cannot comprehend) has nothing to do with ruining the game industry or not. You either pirate or you dont. its that simple.

By your definition piracy only counts when it comes to your favourite gaming industry? your ethic is so fucking laughable.

I didn't say it only counts when it comes to the gaming industry, it counts in downloading films, music and games, and I'm sure other cases. using images on the internet however IS different, and doesn't put people out of business. You know this. So you can use all the jargon you like, but it'll never be the same. I can sleep sound at night knowing I'm not stealing from any game developer, can you? Likely not.

Another pirate that thinks the world owes them everything you'll end up in the slammer with that attitude.



 

alekth said:

Eh, it's perfectly fine to sell a copy of the Mona Lisa as long as you're selling it as a replica. There are studios that make their money off stuff like that, these paintings are not copyrighted.

The analogy works for modern stuff though, you can always put it under fair use with a non-commercial academic purpose.


Huh.  For some reason I always figured you'd need to get permission from the louve.

Eh, regardless.



The self-righteousness of some folks in this thread is making me angry, though when it comes to gaming i have little room to be angry at the non-pirates. If anything i'm the quintessential stupid consumer that the gaming industry wishes everyone were: i buy all my games and hardware day-one full price if i can, and i've never pirated console games (and i don't play PC games outside of the occasional H-game)

The ethics and reality of piracy are vastly different from theft, as the monetary "loss" of piracy is as ephemeral as air, though i only tend to pirate anime (of the hentai and non-hentai variety), and more stuff i'll just find hosted illegitimately online (but never actually acquire), however that's often a matter of products that are not made readily available to me



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

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Seece said:
icefaii said:
Seece said:

No i don't need to, your justification is pathetic, pirating a game ruins the game industry, using an image does not. They're clearly not the same.

It seems your puny brain cannot comprehend copyright infringement.

Like I said, copyright infringement(unauthorized use of copyright material; since you cannot comprehend) has nothing to do with ruining the game industry or not. You either pirate or you dont. its that simple.

By your definition piracy only counts when it comes to your favourite gaming industry? your ethic is so fucking laughable.

I didn't say it only counts when it comes to the gaming industry, it counts in downloading films, music and games, and I'm sure other cases. using images on the internet however IS different, and doesn't put people out of business. You know this. So you can use all the jargon you like, but it'll never be the same. I can sleep sound at night knowing I'm not stealing from any game developer, can you? Likely not.

Another pirate that thinks the world owes them everything you'll end up in the slammer with that attitude.


A misconception about piracy is, its not piracy when the developers are not losing money.  Copyright infringement is copyright infringement regardless if the developers are losing money or not.  Yes you can argue the level of piracy is different. But a small pirate bashing on a big pirate still doesnt have much ground in ethics and reasonings. 

Dont tell me you say this to your professor, "uhh the author of this article is not losing money, so its not piracy and I dont need to cite or reference him..."

That will probably get you a big fat F on your essay.



And I am not trying to argue whether piracy is right or wrong. My beef with the people in this thread is: they think they are some kind of holy saint when they only pirate on the small stuffs just not games, as if games are all that matters in copyright infringement.



icefaii said:
Seece said:
icefaii said:
Seece said:

No i don't need to, your justification is pathetic, pirating a game ruins the game industry, using an image does not. They're clearly not the same.

It seems your puny brain cannot comprehend copyright infringement.

Like I said, copyright infringement(unauthorized use of copyright material; since you cannot comprehend) has nothing to do with ruining the game industry or not. You either pirate or you dont. its that simple.

By your definition piracy only counts when it comes to your favourite gaming industry? your ethic is so fucking laughable.

I didn't say it only counts when it comes to the gaming industry, it counts in downloading films, music and games, and I'm sure other cases. using images on the internet however IS different, and doesn't put people out of business. You know this. So you can use all the jargon you like, but it'll never be the same. I can sleep sound at night knowing I'm not stealing from any game developer, can you? Likely not.

Another pirate that thinks the world owes them everything you'll end up in the slammer with that attitude.


A misconception about piracy is, its not piracy when the developers are not losing money.  Copyright infringement is copyright infringement regardless if the developers are losing money or not.  Yes you can argue the level of piracy is different. But a small pirate bashing on a big pirate still doesnt have much ground in ethics and reasonings. 

Dont tell me you say this to your professor, "uhh the author of this article is not losing money, so its not piracy and I dont need to cite or reference him..."

That will probably get you a big fat F on your essay.


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Trolly trolls are trolling.

 

 

I'll admit I'm a pirate, but I'm not going to say I'm a thief. I pirate games I would never buy, or games that I'd only ever buy used, or games that I had bought and then lost, or I pirate for convenience (i.e. I have 40 DS games, but I put them on an Acekard 2i for the convenience) .

 

IMO a developer never gets my money if I'd never buy their game, and they'd never get my money if I bought it used (only Gamestop would). I buy old games for the Virtual Console because a company gave me the ability to pay for their old games, but if the VC didn't exist I'd go through other, less legal means in order to play those games, sorta like how I had an entire collection of ROMs that I played on my Dreamcast.

 

The worst case against me is that I pirate games that I wouldn't buy, because most of those games I'd buy if the price was right, I just don't feel that publishers establish appropriate prices very often.



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twesterm said:
icefaii said:
Seece said:
icefaii said:
Seece said:

No i don't need to, your justification is pathetic, pirating a game ruins the game industry, using an image does not. They're clearly not the same.

It seems your puny brain cannot comprehend copyright infringement.

Like I said, copyright infringement(unauthorized use of copyright material; since you cannot comprehend) has nothing to do with ruining the game industry or not. You either pirate or you dont. its that simple.

By your definition piracy only counts when it comes to your favourite gaming industry? your ethic is so fucking laughable.

I didn't say it only counts when it comes to the gaming industry, it counts in downloading films, music and games, and I'm sure other cases. using images on the internet however IS different, and doesn't put people out of business. You know this. So you can use all the jargon you like, but it'll never be the same. I can sleep sound at night knowing I'm not stealing from any game developer, can you? Likely not.

Another pirate that thinks the world owes them everything you'll end up in the slammer with that attitude.


A misconception about piracy is, its not piracy when the developers are not losing money.  Copyright infringement is copyright infringement regardless if the developers are losing money or not.  Yes you can argue the level of piracy is different. But a small pirate bashing on a big pirate still doesnt have much ground in ethics and reasonings. 

Dont tell me you say this to your professor, "uhh the author of this article is not losing money, so its not piracy and I dont need to cite or reference him..."

That will probably get you a big fat F on your essay.


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LOL idiots are idiots, still cannot understand copyright law. What i stated are facts not analogy.

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