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EL_PATRAS on 04 February 2011

maybe this will force them into making a FFVII remake hahhaha



                                                                           

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Galaki on 04 February 2011
MrT-Tar said:

S-E needs to get DQX out fast.  Or if they just want quick revenue, they could just port DQVIII to the Wii


But the Wii is very much dead in Japan. They may as well scrap the game if they hadn't already done so.



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Aiddon on 04 February 2011
Mad55 said:
Aiddon said:
A203D said:
Aiddon said:

I get the feeling that FFXIV's failure is just going to continue to hemorrhage their money. Deus Ex isn't going to save them and I seriously think FFXIII-2 is going to underperform (as well as The 3rd Birthday). Their lack of talent or quality is no longer a secret and probably the only other title they have coming up that I think will perform well at least critically is Tactics Ogre. Other than that I see NOTHING doing well.

I dont think Deus Ex will save them either, but their doing the right thing which is investing in their western assests. the Tomb Raider reboot looks promising, Deus Ex i think will turn out to be a popular game - like a modern day film noir version of Bioshock. and theres still the western developed Fortress project that could turn out well. and i think they will release a HD collection for FF and Tomb Raider, which might help them a bit in the short run.

so i think the western studios will do well, its the Japanese studios that are causing problems. simply because of the allocation of resources (5 years for 1 game) and for some reason the very poor IPs (Infinite Undiscovery, etc).  imo Tactics Ogre is swimming against the tides sadly, because its on PSP, with the PSP2 already announced and its a hardcore game i think.


I can't see Fortress making back its budget due to its, at best, messy dev cycle (and that's if it ever gets released). And the thing is 90% of the problems are on the SQUARE side of things, not Enix. Say what you will about Dragon Quest and tri-Ace, they've never really changed their attitude of how they do things. Even the Western side of things isn't immune to garbage, look at Kane and Lynch. Deus Ex and TO are the only things I find interesting. Right now FFXIV is STILL bleeding cash and none of Square's other projects look good. At all.

the company is one now its square enix if its squares fault then its enixes fault.

In terms of game quality the Enix side of things is fine; their games are as good as they've ever been unlike Square's titles which have had a sharp drop in quality. Tons of stuff developed from the Square side of the equation has been mediocre to absolute garbage. So, no, I'm not going to blame Yuji Horii and tri-Ace for how badly FF, the Mana series, and 3rd Birthday have turned out.

also this (from killian1):

"Seems to me that Square Enix should be focusing less on the Square side and more on the Enix sides.

ActRaiser, SoulBlazer, E.V.O., Terranigma, The 7th Saga, and Ogre Battle were classics for the SNES. They are all worthy of a reboot. My personal choice would be split between Act Raiser (the 1st with the overworld simulation, not the scroller hack and slash ActRaiser 2) and SoulBlazer.

Either let Final Fantasy rest to stir the pot of want or learn from Final Fantasy 12 and 13's mistakes and aim for greatness.

Too much FInal Fantasy, not enough Enix."

At the very least the Ogre Battle Saga is being revived with the remake of Tactics Ogre



Mad55 on 04 February 2011
Aiddon said:
Mad55 said:
Aiddon said:
A203D said:
Aiddon said:

I get the feeling that FFXIV's failure is just going to continue to hemorrhage their money. Deus Ex isn't going to save them and I seriously think FFXIII-2 is going to underperform (as well as The 3rd Birthday). Their lack of talent or quality is no longer a secret and probably the only other title they have coming up that I think will perform well at least critically is Tactics Ogre. Other than that I see NOTHING doing well.

I dont think Deus Ex will save them either, but their doing the right thing which is investing in their western assests. the Tomb Raider reboot looks promising, Deus Ex i think will turn out to be a popular game - like a modern day film noir version of Bioshock. and theres still the western developed Fortress project that could turn out well. and i think they will release a HD collection for FF and Tomb Raider, which might help them a bit in the short run.

so i think the western studios will do well, its the Japanese studios that are causing problems. simply because of the allocation of resources (5 years for 1 game) and for some reason the very poor IPs (Infinite Undiscovery, etc).  imo Tactics Ogre is swimming against the tides sadly, because its on PSP, with the PSP2 already announced and its a hardcore game i think.


I can't see Fortress making back its budget due to its, at best, messy dev cycle (and that's if it ever gets released). And the thing is 90% of the problems are on the SQUARE side of things, not Enix. Say what you will about Dragon Quest and tri-Ace, they've never really changed their attitude of how they do things. Even the Western side of things isn't immune to garbage, look at Kane and Lynch. Deus Ex and TO are the only things I find interesting. Right now FFXIV is STILL bleeding cash and none of Square's other projects look good. At all.

the company is one now its square enix if its squares fault then its enixes fault.

In terms of game quality the Enix side of things is fine; their games are as good as they've ever been unlike Square's titles which have had a sharp drop in quality. Tons of stuff developed from the Square side of the equation has been mediocre to absolute garbage. So, no, I'm not going to blame Yuji Horii and tri-Ace for how badly FF, the Mana series, and 3rd Birthday have turned out.

also this (from killian1):

"Seems to me that Square Enix should be focusing less on the Square side and more on the Enix sides.

ActRaiser, SoulBlazer, E.V.O., Terranigma, The 7th Saga, and Ogre Battle were classics for the SNES. They are all worthy of a reboot. My personal choice would be split between Act Raiser (the 1st with the overworld simulation, not the scroller hack and slash ActRaiser 2) and SoulBlazer.

Either let Final Fantasy rest to stir the pot of want or learn from Final Fantasy 12 and 13's mistakes and aim for greatness.

Too much FInal Fantasy, not enough Enix."

At the very least the Ogre Battle Saga is being revived with the remake of Tactics Ogre

well ill say that the third birthday is awesome and the only bad final fantasy that i have played is ff 14 so i cant agree with you there. ill agree that they should use more ips more often but  i wouldnt say just enixs old series will do them good square has some good franchises from back in the day as well. but id prefer if they worked hard on newer ips.



oniyide on 04 February 2011

@turkish  yeah dont know why they did that



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dunno001 on 05 February 2011
Killiana1a said:

Seems to me that Square Enix should be focusing less on the Square side and more on the Enix sides.

ActRaiser, SoulBlazer, E.V.O., Terranigma, The 7th Saga, and Ogre Battle were classics for the SNES. They are all worthy of a reboot. My personal choice would be split between Act Raiser (the 1st with the overworld simulation, not the scroller hack and slash ActRaiser 2) and SoulBlazer.

Either let Final Fantasy rest to stir the pot of want or learn from Final Fantasy 12 and 13's mistakes and aim for greatness.

Too much FInal Fantasy, not enough Enix.

Basically this. There are 2 situations that I'd love to see, though alas, I don't think either is likely:

-Enix resplits from Square. This leaves Square alone with gobs of money coming in, and about as equal of gobs going into the next FF game. The company teeters on the brink of bankruptcy at the failure of any mainline FF game. Enix keeps Dragon Quest, and without Wada, can feel free to revive other titles of theirs that don't have the words "Dragon Quest" in it. Since it seems as though Square's execs are making a lot of the higher decisions, I think it is them who are stifling Enix.

-Horii gets fed up with Square-Enix, leaves them. I don't think he can take back the rights to the prior published games, but in Japan, he would have no problem finding another publisher. My guess is that either Sony would buy him outright for the next period of games, or he'd go to Nintendo, who already has a history of working with his games internationally. Removal of the big profitability horse would leave S-E scrambling to cut costs.



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noname2200 on 06 February 2011
dunno001 said:

-Horii gets fed up with Square-Enix, leaves them. I don't think he can take back the rights to the prior published games, but in Japan, he would have no problem finding another publisher. My guess is that either Sony would buy him outright for the next period of games, or he'd go to Nintendo, who already has a history of working with his games internationally. Removal of the big profitability horse would leave S-E scrambling to cut costs.

There's no way in hell Horii will hook up with any of the first parties.  His philosophy is to target whatever console has the most support in Japan, so gambling that any first-party will forever remain on top is definitely not his style.



SaviorX on 06 February 2011
badgenome said:

Mindjack to the rescue!

MindJack Sales (Xbox360) Sales History (Launches Aligned)

Summary of weekly unit sales from launch broken down by region (for first 10 weeks of sale)

Week Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide Running Total
1 8,086 N/A N/A 8,086 8,086
2 3,898 N/A N/A 3,898 11,984
Ten Week Totals: 11,984 0 0 11,984
Lifetime Totals: 11,984 0 0 11,984

 

MindJack Sales (PS3) Sales History (Launches Aligned)

Summary of weekly unit sales from launch broken down by region (for first 10 weeks of sale)

Week Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide Running Total
1 7,483 N/A N/A 7,483 7,483
2 2,973 N/A N/A 2,973 10,456
Ten Week Totals: 10,456 0 0 10,456
Lifetime Totals: 10,456 0 0 10,456


Ummmmmmmm.......



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jarrod on 07 February 2011

For people who might not know, Mindjack actually comes from the Enix side of things.  So did Nier.



hikaruchan on 10 February 2011
cloud1161 said:

sakaguchi really needs to come back

You do know that Sakaguchi san almost bankrupted Squaresoft with that crappy FF movie The spirits within and th's why Squaresoft sidelined him. 



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