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*What Is The Main Thing That Sells A System?*

Game Library 96 41.74%
 
Price 36 15.65%
 
1 Huge Hit(Wii Fit, Kinect) 25 10.87%
 
All Play An Equal Role 73 31.74%
 
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Carl on 02 February 2011
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:

Marketing.

Without naming names, this generation has proven that with great marketing, even a shoddy product can sell Millions.

Games

Without naming names, this generation has proven that, even the best hardware in console history means nothing with no games.

Games and Marketing kinda come in the same boat.

Without games, you have nothing to market. Without Marketing, your games will be unknown. So yeah. You're kinda right.

Only kinda, because I'd like to add this. The best hardware in console history had games. Pokemon Red was my favourite.



                            

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zgamer5 on 02 February 2011

price and gimmicks.



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Zlejedi on 02 February 2011

Combination of low entry price, mind catching gimmick and good marketing.



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AussieGecko on 02 February 2011
osamanobama said:

the system that everyone else owns.

case in point, xbox in america.

i cant think of any other reason why it utterly destroys the ps3 every year, even though it is at the same price point and has inferior capabilities


because when it comes down to it it is up to the game developers. Look at the DS, the games look very similar on both even though the PSP is more powerful.

Developers prefer the Xbox thus multiplats seem to look better on the 360.

See what I did there? I threw your shocking attempt at a troll right back at you.



 

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AussieGecko on 02 February 2011
osamanobama said:

@DjFlex53

 

i know xbox 1 was better, but im curious did it have any games with better graphics than GT4 and GOW2, i never owned an xbox so i dont know. because to my knowledge those were by far the best graphics (at least for what i saw).

also ps2 had like 10 billion games

Support didn't allow it, now the support system has changed the 360 has better multiplat games then the ps3. Even though as you demand the ps3 is not "inferior"



 

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AussieGecko on 02 February 2011
osamanobama said:


like what?

please share these compelling features that xbox has that ps3 doesnt which makes so many americans buy it.

also i was not trying to bash the xbox, i like along with many of its games (namely gears of war), but i can still see that it is inferior, doesnt mean its bad, just not as good.

which then baffles me that it pretty much outsells ps3 2:1


My god your opinion is Gospel... jeepers oh great OO what is your next decision.

It baffles me why ps3 sells an amount because I don't prefer it... am i doing it right?

 

I prefer the 360, in fact I spent 1100 when i bought my 360, I got 2 controllers halo 3 and bioshock 1. Thats it. PS3 was 799 or 899 (i cant remember) at the same time. But I chose the 360 because of Halo 3 after a dabble in EB games of halo. It is an opinion, I don't find the PS3 to be the superior console. You do. Move on.



 

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Cypher1980 on 02 February 2011

Easy Experiment

Three consoles (all made up)

Console A - Good games, console at excellent price point. Cost 100 pts console / 20 pts a game

Console B - Excellent games, Extremely expensive to purchase console and games (250/50)

Console C- Underwhelming games library, Console and games extremely cheap to purchase (50/10)

Which would you pick ?



osamanobama on 02 February 2011
AussieGecko said:
osamanobama said:


like what?

please share these compelling features that xbox has that ps3 doesnt which makes so many americans buy it.

also i was not trying to bash the xbox, i like along with many of its games (namely gears of war), but i can still see that it is inferior, doesnt mean its bad, just not as good.

which then baffles me that it pretty much outsells ps3 2:1


My god your opinion is Gospel... jeepers oh great OO what is your next decision.

It baffles me why ps3 sells an amount because I don't prefer it... am i doing it right?

 

I prefer the 360, in fact I spent 1100 when i bought my 360, I got 2 controllers halo 3 and bioshock 1. Thats it. PS3 was 799 or 899 (i cant remember) at the same time. But I chose the 360 because of Halo 3 after a dabble in EB games of halo. It is an opinion, I don't find the PS3 to be the superior console. You do. Move on.

it was $499 and $599. and that all you need you didnt need, wifi, hddvd add-on, proprietary HDD, or $50 xbl. well i guess you could have bought another controller and a $10 mic.

im am not saying xbox is bad, nor im i trolling it, but surely you must admit that ps3 has superior capabilities. and it could be argued(easily) that ps3 has more/features . furthermore if you get ps3 you're not gonna miss out on many games, but if you only had an xbox you miss out on dozen of AAA titles (just look at 2011). 

i backed up my opinion why xbox inferior why reasons and facts, i suggest you do the same when you make comments like this

 



Notorius.A.i.G on 02 February 2011

The games and price.



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osamanobama on 02 February 2011
Shinobi-san said:
osamanobama said:
Shinobi-san said:
osamanobama said:

the system that everyone else owns.

case in point, xbox in america.

i cant think of any other reason why it utterly destroys the ps3 every year, even though it is at the same price point and has inferior capabilities


its not simply for that reason.

 1)First off the ps3 and the xbox 360 is not at the same price point....its to my knowledge that for 299 usd u get a ps3 and one control, no games, and a 160gb hdd? for that same price u get the xbox 360 250gb sku with 2 controls and whatever game(s) is bundled. To me i see way more value in the 360 simply based on this price point.

2) Another thing, the games that release on the 360 is more well received by americans in general. In other words people see more value in just gears and halo than they do the entire ps3 exclusive line up, which is also to some degree understandable.

3) People like to play with there friends especially in this generation which is heavily focused on online multiplayer gameplay. If 8 out of my 10 friends have a 360, im getting a 360!

 4) The xbox 360 arguably has better features to support online gameplay, mostly the cross game chat feature and the fact that most 360 owners have a headset.

5) And just in general the 360 appeals to people who dont want to be bothered with installs and so on, i find the 360 to be more accesible and this comes in to play slightly as well.

Marketing and perception is also important.

 Also,l dont think many people will agree with the "inferior capabilities" statement.

1) actually xbox 250gb with one controller, no game costs $299 just like ps3 160gb one controller. but if you going by gb size to say they arent the same cost then i could use the  $399 320gb move ps3 with game vs $399 250gb kinect xbox with game.

and since ur talking about value xbox has $60 online, for new HDD you need proprietary $130 HDD, (historically $150 wifi addon, not needed for current models) no bluray, but $200 hddvd add-on (discontinued). $150 kinect vs $100 move. kinect games $50 vs $40 move games.

2)  well those are just two games ps3 has tons of games to counter like Uncharted, resistance, killzone, and socom. those definitely seem like games that would appeal to americans, if they were on xbox they would sell millions. furthermore most games on xbox are multiplats, so you could arguably play the better version on ps3 (free online, on xbox ur locked out of part of the game unless you pay more)

3) the bolded. thats my point, you play it bc every one else does

4) well im sure u mute almost every one whos not ur friend any way, i know i do (people get annoying) anyone ps3 mics arent proprietary so you can get any u want (does xbox still come with mics is thought they stopped) to me psn is better and has the better features because of things like the internet browser, and its openness. see portal 2 for ps3, thats not possible on xbl, speaking of which do you really think a game like little big planet is possible on xbl (i really dont know, but i assume not). also psn has more dedicated server games than xbl, and xbl pays (for what exactly???)

5) thats a thing of the past, even the best looking games on console dont require an install like GOW3, uncharted 1 and 2, killzone  3 (but then theres GT5... lol)

1. yeah i see now that i was wrong about that. But surely u agree that the 299 sku of the 360 is more flexible when it comes to pricing ? the ps3 160gb sku is almost never compromised on. Holiday bundles etc. usually the 360 gets better deals. I see this in my country a lot and id imagine its more so in the USA.

When i said value i meant face value what consumers will perceive to be better value...or if i was a consumer how i would perceive that.

2. I was just using gears and halo as the example of games which push xbox 360 in the usa i wasnt comparing them in any other way to ps3 exclusives...u make as if americans are buying 360's without having any tangible reason at all besides because its what every else buys, im simply saying thats just one reason. And if killzone, lbp, uncharted were all as well received as gears and halo, then ps3 sales would have skyrocketed but they havnt. which means those games do not have the same broad appeal as the gears or halo. Im not at all saying they are inferior. btw i see uncharted as potentially having broad appeal...

3. we agree on this but its not the only reason, its one of many.

4.personally i feel psn is better. But once again people perceive live to be better...perception is key. The reality of one being better than the other is debatable and is a matter of opinion.

5. installs are way more common on ps3 even at this point in the gen. all 360 games do not require an istall.

But  i think my main point is, perception or the genral perception of a console versus another that sways people to buy one over the other.

i agree with bolded, but its not always like that.

and i agree with most of what you said, but i dont agree that the games i mention dont have as broad appeal as xbox games. if killzone was an xbox exclusive it would have sold over 5million, if uncharted was over 8 million, resistance over 6 million. those are just some of the many games ps3 has that are the types of games most americans love, but unfortunately US is ps3 worst region so the games dont sell as well as they should