redspear said: nintendo_fanboy said: Yeah, best attempt redspear, although it gets a little boring after so many sarcastic posts in this thread. Amongst the funniest joke posts are those from Diomedes I think Just one thing for people that say that Nintendo isn't stockpiling. Those should go back and check the data for months like september or october. I'm pretty sure the total amount of sold Wiis will be lower than 1.8 million. On the other hand, we know that Nintendo ramped up production to 1.8 million in late summer, so this clearly shows that there are Wiis somewhere - and this week they are in the USA. Yeah I know sarcastic posts abound, but I just wanted to use the word Faggle before someone else comes up with it. However come to think of it is too obvious a word not to have been used a million times before and I probably just missed it trying to comprehend some faulty logic. Diomedes posts are very funny he should get a job for SDF website.   As for shipments. I think it takes about 6 weeks or so for product to ship to retailers mostly because they send them by boat to reduce costs. So you probably wouldn't see the effects of it until October and there is no doubt that retailers will stock pile them for sunday ads not too mention leak a few during the week to get people come in. Think about releasing 10 Wiis on a Tuesday could bring in 40 people some of the people who don't get a Wii are going to buy something maybe even a DS or quite possibly a shoe rack if it is wal mart.

Ha ha!... "hmm no Wii in stock, oh well i suppose i will buy this shoe-rack"

Holy **** at Wii and DS numbers! ;-; and ^_^ respectively.

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Too much premature ejubilation going on around here waiting on "The Downfall of the Wii".

People forget that the sales results we see are a week behind. It now says American Sales, December 15th.

The possibilities that retailers are artificially withholding supply to drum up bigger business makes perfect sense.

I was at Toys 'R' Us yesterday & saw a Nintendo representative talk to the managers. Looked like stuff was brewing. I've never seen a Nintendo rep in a store before. She had a sky blue sweater/blazer on with white Nintendo logo and the word 'representative' underneath and the Wii logo on her upper left.

The figures from the weeks ending December 22nd & December 29th are going to be monstrous for Wii in North America so I think it would do certain folks' health well not to get too excited at this week's dropoff. It's part supply and part retailer strategy.

DS meanwhile is a runaway train! I think these are record figures for any game console in a holiday season. Nintendo is making money hand over fist. This strategy has paid off in not just spades but the whole damn card deck!

The 20 Million year end figure is still on track as only 3 weeks ago Wii was in the 14 million range and now is about to cross over into 17 million. I expect Wii to quickly pass the 18 million range and move right into the 19 million range next week with the massive shipment. Japan's arching up for the final weeks of December 2007.

On the last week and days of December Wii will pull in that 20 million number. Yes, the worst case scenario has come through. It will ONLY sell 20 million this year. Supply woes are just that serious.

VGC & NPD numbers will be quite scary for December. And next year Nintendo will slowly work out the kinks in production resulting in the 60 million for end of 2008.

Just like with everything Nintendo's been doing the past 3 or 4 years, you won't believe it 'til you see it.

John Lucas 

Entroper said: fkusumot said: Entroper said: @fkusumot: Just because NPD doesn't release weekly data publicly doesn't mean they don't release it privately to paying customers. They also speak directly with product flow managers from all retailers to discuss how much product each retailer should be receiving. I'm sure all three companies have a good idea of how much of their product is getting into customers' hands. It doesn't mean they do either. Do you have any evidence that NPD does release weekly data to privately paying customers? They pay for it. Why would you pay for something that you can get for free? To answer your question, no, I don't have hard evidence, and I've never seen a private NPD report. But I'm sure they give detailed drill downs, and I would expect at least preliminary reports on a weekly basis. If not, they still have the product flow managers.

They do give weekly numbers. That guy who used to work at Microsoft mentioned it. He also mentioned that they were so unreliable in comparison to the monthly numbers that they totally disregarded them. In other words, it seems their weeks don't add up to their total months. Which is why I trust VGchartz about as much. Seems like they have a better formula despite having less sources. Each are equally important in statistical tracking. You know... Viper... or Siren or whatever... he did something with the source on the news page.