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Michael-5 on 29 January 2011
Nintendogamer said:
fwap said:

Close but no cigar!

Wii are still victorious.

BTW this actually happened last week, but I forgot to post it. Nice and early this week. DKCR#4!!!

1
Donkey Kong Country (SNES)
Nintendo
4.43 3.00 1.87 9.30
2
Donkey Kong 64 (N64)
Rare
3.31 1.10 0.86 5.27
3
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (SNES)
Nintendo
2.13 2.21 0.81 5.15
4
Donkey Kong Country Returns (Wii)
Nintendo
2.20 0.79 1.09 4.09
5
Donkey Kong Land (GB)
Nintendo
2.00 1.08 0.83 3.91
6
Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! (SNES)
Nintendo
1.19 1.77 0.55 3.51
7
Donkey Kong (GB)
Nintendo
1.59 0.80 0.68 3.07
8
Donkey Kong Land 2 (GB)
Nintendo
1.41 0.42 0.52 2.35
9
Donkey Kong Country (GB)
Nintendo
1.06 0.34 0.79 2.19
10
Donkey Kong Country (GBA)
Nintendo
1.11 0.29 0.52 1.92


Wow after it beats DKC2 it wont be that far behind DK64 then it will only be 2nd behind the original DKC, I hope it tops it!

It will, 8 million isn't ridiculous for a quality platformer on the Wii. A LOT of hardcore gamers will buy it, hell I almost bought the Wii for it!

Initially I was dissapointed with LBP2 sales, but knowing now LBP1 sold less week 1, I'm just at aww. I hope this game outsells LBP1, and pass the 5 million mark.

Really disapointing week for 360 software, but I think next week on a hardware front 360 should be in first.



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Michael-5 on 29 January 2011
mantlepiecek said:

Good numbers for LBP 2, its as expected although bit short of 500 K.

Funny that the week LBP 2 launches PS3<360, but the week before its PS3>360.

Console shortages for the 360. Microsoft themselves said shortages may be present until earliest February. I think post Kinect we should expect 360 to continuously outsell the PS3, at least for the next couple of months, or at earliest 3DS launch outside of Japan.



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Doobie_wop on 29 January 2011
Halo_Reach said:
CGI-Quality said:
landguy1 said:

What I'm saying is if you don't have proof to say Sony was disappointed with LBP or GT5 it didn't happen. It isn't that hard.

Show me the recording of the sony board cheering the results of these or any titles and then you are right.

All you have to do is look through CES 2011 stuff, or the two weeks after GT5's release. There wasn't a time where they ever mention being disappointed in GT5's sales, but they do praise it's sold/shipped numbers. If you can't provide something concrete to the contrary, he is right, you're blowing smoke. It's that simple.

NO. you listen here, SONY only praised GT5 sales after NPD reported that the game only sold 400,000 in the U.S. for NOVEMBER npd, THEN sony went into FULL damge control mode and TWICE had to anouncethat the game sold 5.5 million....when they knew it flopped badly in the states and japan, so to save face they put out like it was actually selling shitloads, when it is only selling in Europe

I really don't like posting in sales threads, people usually get way to passionate.

I'll just hop in and say that GT5 sold more in America than Halo: Reach sold in EMEAA, so going by your statement, Halo: Reach flopped even harder in nearly all territories and it's only selling well in America. By all accounts according to you, just like GT5, Halo: Reach is a flop in all territories expect for one. 



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

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Halo_Reach on 29 January 2011
Doobie_wop said:
Halo_Reach said:
CGI-Quality said:
landguy1 said:

What I'm saying is if you don't have proof to say Sony was disappointed with LBP or GT5 it didn't happen. It isn't that hard.

Show me the recording of the sony board cheering the results of these or any titles and then you are right.

All you have to do is look through CES 2011 stuff, or the two weeks after GT5's release. There wasn't a time where they ever mention being disappointed in GT5's sales, but they do praise it's sold/shipped numbers. If you can't provide something concrete to the contrary, he is right, you're blowing smoke. It's that simple.

NO. you listen here, SONY only praised GT5 sales after NPD reported that the game only sold 400,000 in the U.S. for NOVEMBER npd, THEN sony went into FULL damge control mode and TWICE had to anouncethat the game sold 5.5 million....when they knew it flopped badly in the states and japan, so to save face they put out like it was actually selling shitloads, when it is only selling in Europe

I really don't like posting in sales threads, people usually get way to passionate.

I'll just hop in and say that GT5 sold more in America than Halo: Reach sold in EMEAA, so going by your statement, Halo: Reach flopped even harder in nearly all territories and it's only selling well in America. By all accounts according to you, just like GT5, Halo: Reach is a flop in all territories expect for one. 

Halo reach sold less than 1.5 million in EMEAA? seriously?



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Halo_Reach on 29 January 2011
Halo_Reach said:
Doobie_wop said:
Halo_Reach said:
CGI-Quality said:
landguy1 said:

What I'm saying is if you don't have proof to say Sony was disappointed with LBP or GT5 it didn't happen. It isn't that hard.

Show me the recording of the sony board cheering the results of these or any titles and then you are right.

All you have to do is look through CES 2011 stuff, or the two weeks after GT5's release. There wasn't a time where they ever mention being disappointed in GT5's sales, but they do praise it's sold/shipped numbers. If you can't provide something concrete to the contrary, he is right, you're blowing smoke. It's that simple.

NO. you listen here, SONY only praised GT5 sales after NPD reported that the game only sold 400,000 in the U.S. for NOVEMBER npd, THEN sony went into FULL damge control mode and TWICE had to anouncethat the game sold 5.5 million....when they knew it flopped badly in the states and japan, so to save face they put out like it was actually selling shitloads, when it is only selling in Europe

I really don't like posting in sales threads, people usually get way to passionate.

I'll just hop in and say that GT5 sold more in America than Halo: Reach sold in EMEAA, so going by your statement, Halo: Reach flopped even harder in nearly all territories and it's only selling well in America. By all accounts according to you, just like GT5, Halo: Reach is a flop in all territories expect for one. 

Halo reach sold less than 1.5 million in EMEAA? seriously?

also, did microsoft or bungie have to come out with suger coated inflated shipped numbers and brag them up because the game bombed so bad in the first npd? NO. they didnt because Halo Reach spoke for itself.



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Halo_Reach on 30 January 2011
CGI-Quality said:
Halo_Reach said:

NO. you listen here, SONY only praised GT5 sales after NPD reported that the game only sold 400,000 in the U.S. for NOVEMBER npd, THEN sony went into FULL damge control mode and TWICE had to anouncethat the game sold 5.5 million....when they knew it flopped badly in the states and japan, so to save face they put out like it was actually selling shitloads, when it is only selling in Europe

Pretty crazy analysis you have here, and quite inaccurate as well. They only reported the shipped figures twice, two weeks after release and during CES. And no, the game didn't flop in any region.


so, they did announce them twice, and the only thing that i said that could be innacurate is saying it flopped badly, yeah you are right it didnt flop badley, it flopped mildly in the states and in japan



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Halo_Reach on 30 January 2011
CGI-Quality said:
Halo_Reach said:
CGI-Quality said:
Halo_Reach said:

NO. you listen here, SONY only praised GT5 sales after NPD reported that the game only sold 400,000 in the U.S. for NOVEMBER npd, THEN sony went into FULL damge control mode and TWICE had to anouncethat the game sold 5.5 million....when they knew it flopped badly in the states and japan, so to save face they put out like it was actually selling shitloads, when it is only selling in Europe

Pretty crazy analysis you have here, and quite inaccurate as well. They only reported the shipped figures twice, two weeks after release and during CES. And no, the game didn't flop in any region.


so, they did announce them twice, and the only thing that i said that could be innacurate is saying it flopped badly, yeah you are right it didnt flop badley, it flopped mildly in the states and in japan

I wouldn't say it flopped in either. It's at where GT4 was in 10 weeks, after 9 in the States. In Japan, it did worse than I expected, but my opinion (and yours for that matter) doesn't represent what was expected from the relevant party. For all anyone knows, it may have sold exactly as expected there. 

If you said it sold badly for what the franchise is known for in Japan, I'd have less of an argument. But again, Sony's expectations are the ones to go by.

you have a interesting take on things. tons of benifit of doubt for gt5 over the time i have seen you here, do you even play games or are you here just to root for sony products?



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Doobie_wop on 30 January 2011
Halo_Reach said:
Doobie_wop said:
Halo_Reach said:
CGI-Quality said:
landguy1 said:

What I'm saying is if you don't have proof to say Sony was disappointed with LBP or GT5 it didn't happen. It isn't that hard.

Show me the recording of the sony board cheering the results of these or any titles and then you are right.

All you have to do is look through CES 2011 stuff, or the two weeks after GT5's release. There wasn't a time where they ever mention being disappointed in GT5's sales, but they do praise it's sold/shipped numbers. If you can't provide something concrete to the contrary, he is right, you're blowing smoke. It's that simple.

NO. you listen here, SONY only praised GT5 sales after NPD reported that the game only sold 400,000 in the U.S. for NOVEMBER npd, THEN sony went into FULL damge control mode and TWICE had to anouncethat the game sold 5.5 million....when they knew it flopped badly in the states and japan, so to save face they put out like it was actually selling shitloads, when it is only selling in Europe

I really don't like posting in sales threads, people usually get way to passionate.

I'll just hop in and say that GT5 sold more in America than Halo: Reach sold in EMEAA, so going by your statement, Halo: Reach flopped even harder in nearly all territories and it's only selling well in America. By all accounts according to you, just like GT5, Halo: Reach is a flop in all territories expect for one. 

Halo reach sold less than 1.5 million in EMEAA? seriously?


Sorry buddy, I had some friends come over and we had a water fight, so I didn't have time to reply back. Also, VGChartz was broken until now for some weird reason. I made a mistake, I mixed the ten week totals with the life time numbers. My point kinda still stands but I wasn't all that into it anyway, so I wont jabber on.



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landguy1 on 30 January 2011
CGI-Quality said:
mantlepiecek said:

landguy1 said:

So, back when LBP1 came out, it was all over the place how it was going to be a monster hit and a massive system seller for the PS3.  But after it came out, it was a middling success, just like LBP2 looks to be.  

Now, as for GT5 and MGS4.... your kidding right?

 Sure, GT5 is selling good(not as good as they hoped either), but is it defining the PS3?  I doubt it.  Just a good title.

I can agree that MGS4 probably moved systems- I bought the MGS4 PS3 when it came out.  but it doesn't define the PS3.  Like Halo does for the 360 or Mario does for the Wii/Nintendo systems.  But it is about as close as we get so far....

PS3 is defined by its variety, not by a single franchise.

Something that needs to be echoed around these boards to some.

Really, LBP2 is an improvement over it's predecessor, and with just one week of sales, we can hardly know what it will do. It's like people deliberately ignore the PlayStation demographic's tendencies regarding sales (even Sony fans do this). Besides GT, PlayStation games always start off slow and continue to sell over time. The PS1 & PS2s should have taught that lesson by now.

I mean sure, there's God of War, Uncharted, & Killzone that will all enjoy hefty week 1 numbers, but they are exceptions (given their critical acclaim and potency to the brand on their own) not a rule. The demographics are different to that of the Xbox, where it's fans are much more inclined to rush out day/week 1 to pick up the latest/hottest titles (such as Halo, Gears, or Fable). In the long run, the PS equivalents to those are Uncharted (Gears), GT (Halo), & God of War (Fable) - they just take longer to reach similar numbers to that of the Xbox franchises, or in the case of Gears vs Uncharted , Gears still remains 1-1.5mill or so ahead - but you get the point).

He also mentions that Sony was disappointed with GT5's sales (although I'm not sure how he drew such an assessment - since they've never implied it, much less said it), while they have continued to tout what it's shipped thus far. There's a conflict there, and it doesn't favor his argument.

Long story short, I expect LBP2 to continue to sell on and reach the 3.5mill-4mill LBP enjoyed. 

you seem to be one of the few who got my original point.

As far as LBP2 selling as well as part 1.  you can't really think that a sequel  that comes out to an install base that is double the size of the base when pt. 1 came is something that sony was hoping for.

As for GT5, i have said that it is selling well.  But, again, sony can't possibly  be cheering the PS3s continued lack of relevance here in the states.  Thus the GT5s lackluster sales here in the states.  GT4 was a huge system seller when it came out.  Somehow, the magic came off for this installment(the reasons have been debated enough).  

My whole point has been that even though both titles are going to sell well, they will not meet the hopes of being breakout hits(breakout meaning a substantial improvement).  Now, of course sony can't call them disappointments.  You guys on this site need to have a better understanding of how LARGE corporations that are publicly traded have to communicate officially.  They can't or won't make comments that might cause traders to dump their stock.  That would cause constant fluctuations in their stock price and that scares away investors.  That's why we sit here and debate the meaning of every press release made by the larger companies.  



4k1x3r on 30 January 2011
landguy1 said:

you seem to be one of the few who got my original point.

(1) As far as LBP2 selling as well as part 1.  you can't really think that a sequel  that comes out to an install base that is double the size of the base when pt. 1 came is something that sony was hoping for.

As for GT5, i have said that it is selling well.  But, again, sony can't possibly  be cheering the PS3s continued lack of relevance here in the states. (2) Thus the GT5s lackluster sales here in the states.  GT4 was a huge system seller when it came out.  Somehow, the magic came off for this installment(the reasons have been debated enough).  

(1) Is this a joke? Only few sequels that came out when the userbase was twice bigger, sold twice the amount of its predecessor. Even franchise as big as Halo had this situation. (check the FW of Reach and 3) To put it in perspective.

Week Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide Running Total
1 266,137 N/A 187,539 453,676 453,676

This is LBP2's FW, without Japan.

Week Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide Running Total
1 110,079 49,839 176,050 335,968 335,968

And this is LBP FW with Japan.  So LBP2 sold 35% more than LBP and this without Japan in.

Week Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide Running Total
1 110,079 N/A 176,050 286,129 286,129

This is without Japan. So LBP2 sold 59% more than LBP with the same countries taken into account. I don't know where's the problem, considering that LBP came out in holiday season, we're in January here. And it'll cross 500k once Japan numbers are in, I don't see it selling less than the first one in Japan.

(2) As CGI said, selling on par with GT4, with 14m less consoles/users, and having good legs even without holiday (staying above GT4), is not something to be sad about. GT5 was never expected to sell awesome in NA no matter what, you're the one who think that. Sony is not stupid, they know EMEAA is their strongest area, and they know better than anyone why GT3 sold better in NA than EMEAA: bundles.