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landguy1 on 30 January 2011
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CGI-Quality said:
mantlepiecek said:

landguy1 said:

So, back when LBP1 came out, it was all over the place how it was going to be a monster hit and a massive system seller for the PS3.  But after it came out, it was a middling success, just like LBP2 looks to be.  

Now, as for GT5 and MGS4.... your kidding right?

 Sure, GT5 is selling good(not as good as they hoped either), but is it defining the PS3?  I doubt it.  Just a good title.

I can agree that MGS4 probably moved systems- I bought the MGS4 PS3 when it came out.  but it doesn't define the PS3.  Like Halo does for the 360 or Mario does for the Wii/Nintendo systems.  But it is about as close as we get so far....

PS3 is defined by its variety, not by a single franchise.

Something that needs to be echoed around these boards to some.

Really, LBP2 is an improvement over it's predecessor, and with just one week of sales, we can hardly know what it will do. It's like people deliberately ignore the PlayStation demographic's tendencies regarding sales (even Sony fans do this). Besides GT, PlayStation games always start off slow and continue to sell over time. The PS1 & PS2s should have taught that lesson by now.

I mean sure, there's God of War, Uncharted, & Killzone that will all enjoy hefty week 1 numbers, but they are exceptions (given their critical acclaim and potency to the brand on their own) not a rule. The demographics are different to that of the Xbox, where it's fans are much more inclined to rush out day/week 1 to pick up the latest/hottest titles (such as Halo, Gears, or Fable). In the long run, the PS equivalents to those are Uncharted (Gears), GT (Halo), & God of War (Fable) - they just take longer to reach similar numbers to that of the Xbox franchises, or in the case of Gears vs Uncharted , Gears still remains 1-1.5mill or so ahead - but you get the point).

He also mentions that Sony was disappointed with GT5's sales (although I'm not sure how he drew such an assessment - since they've never implied it, much less said it), while they have continued to tout what it's shipped thus far. There's a conflict there, and it doesn't favor his argument.

Long story short, I expect LBP2 to continue to sell on and reach the 3.5mill-4mill LBP enjoyed. 

you seem to be one of the few who got my original point.

As far as LBP2 selling as well as part 1.  you can't really think that a sequel  that comes out to an install base that is double the size of the base when pt. 1 came is something that sony was hoping for.

As for GT5, i have said that it is selling well.  But, again, sony can't possibly  be cheering the PS3s continued lack of relevance here in the states.  Thus the GT5s lackluster sales here in the states.  GT4 was a huge system seller when it came out.  Somehow, the magic came off for this installment(the reasons have been debated enough).  

My whole point has been that even though both titles are going to sell well, they will not meet the hopes of being breakout hits(breakout meaning a substantial improvement).  Now, of course sony can't call them disappointments.  You guys on this site need to have a better understanding of how LARGE corporations that are publicly traded have to communicate officially.  They can't or won't make comments that might cause traders to dump their stock.  That would cause constant fluctuations in their stock price and that scares away investors.  That's why we sit here and debate the meaning of every press release made by the larger companies.