true story -- i made a copy of your house key.  it's only a copy so it's not stealing and thus completely legal.  being the the freedom fighter i am i distributed that key to everyone in your neighboorhood.  how was i suppose to know that the guy who has been sent to jail 3 times already would use that key to break into your house, steal your shit, and rape your wife.  i mean, as i handed out the keys i told him not do that so i am of course completely blameless.

really, when you think about it this hole thing is your fault.  you should have known i was going to try and make copies of your household protection mechanisms.  you really should have had a more secure house.  i hope you learned your lesson.

Amazing that people are so narrow minded that they could possibly think Sony should win this case.  Does it suck that people have used this information to hack MW2 and possibly pirate other games, yes.  So you go after the ones doing the actual damage, the ones actually breaking the law.

The DMCA attempts to make it illegal to do something that is not illegal.  Using your own property how you see fit is not illegal.  Because Hotz and others were able to find a way to use their PS3s for other things than what Sony wants is NOT illegal.  If someone uses that information to do something illegal, then you go after them, not the guy that provides the information.

How is this any different than if I sell you a gun and show you how to use it, and you go shoot someone.  You should get arrested, not me.

As for the future outcome, the courts are already bought and paid for by corporate money, so I have no doubt that Sony will win.  And many idiots on here will celebrate.

You do know sony removed ps3 linux support right?

Sony only removed it when the hackers started exploiting it which is his point.  OS was there for ages and would have remained if it hadn't been abused.  Sony didn't remove it suddenly and for no reason.  The hackers upset the balance of power first in this particular case.

Other OS was almost an olive branch from Sony to position PS3 as not needing to be hacked and for a fair while it worked, but sadly in the end hackers decided they had to open the console up all the way, Sony reacted, the hackers reacted back and we're where we are.

Amazing that people are so narrow minded that they could possibly think Sony should win this case.  Does it suck that people have used this information to hack MW2 and possibly pirate other games, yes.  So you go after the ones doing the actual damage, the ones actually breaking the law.

The DMCA attempts to make it illegal to do something that is not illegal.  Using your own property how you see fit is not illegal.  Because Hotz and others were able to find a way to use their PS3s for other things than what Sony wants is NOT illegal.  If someone uses that information to do something illegal, then you go after them, not the guy that provides the information.

How is this any different than if I sell you a gun and show you how to use it, and you go shoot someone.  You should get arrested, not me.

As for the future outcome, the courts are already bought and paid for by corporate money, so I have no doubt that Sony will win.  And many idiots on here will celebrate.

I wonder how long the temporary restraining order lasts... Will Geohotz just go back to it once the time limit is up? Anyways, I hope that Sony getting the stuff from Hotz will result in a solution to the security breach, though I'm a bit sceptical.

true story -- i made a copy of your house key.  it's only a copy so it's not stealing and thus completely legal.  being the the freedom fighter i am i distributed that key to everyone in your neighboorhood.  how was i suppose to know that the guy who has been sent to jail 3 times already would use that key to break into your house, steal your shit, and rape your wife.  i mean, as i handed out the keys i told him not do that so i am of course completely blameless.

really, when you think about it this hole thing is your fault.  you should have known i was going to try and make copies of your household protection mechanisms.  you really should have had a more secure house.  i hope you learned your lesson.

Do we have anyone with real US legal knowledge on the boards by any chance?  I'm no expert but sniffing around it does seem Sony does have more than a zero chance to prosecute here.

Unless I'm missreading stuff the impression I've gained is that their is a law in US preventing breaking included security countermeasures in electronic devices - with the exception of phones for some reason.  When you buy and use a PS3 you are agreeing to abide by that law in the US so far as I can see.

With the iPhone the exception for phones protected those hacking it I would presume.  Unless I'm reading it wrong the PS3 does have legal protection from hacking which allegendly has been broken - i.e. opening it up, modding it, etc. without breaking the security would be fine, but if you did break the security to do so... then you've commited a legally punishable offence.

Now, I have no idea whether that law is upholdable - or even if I've read it accurately - so I'd like opinions of anyone who is more familiar with US law.

best post ever.

...it seems to be quite popular with the anti-hacker crowd but i keep coming back to this thread to see if any of the pro-hacker crowd are going to respond.  looks like they will not be doing that...