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Hephaestos on 27 January 2011

does jumping on gombas and eating mushrooms count as violance and antisocial behaviors?

cause I mean what form of entertainment has no violence or trivalization of human sexuality? sure i've just seen a romantic movie where there was no violence or sex... but the heroine is engaged, not married and there's one line where the guy insinuates them going under the sheets, that's against church rules :p (then she dumps her fiancé for an other guys but I guess that's authorised since no vow was taken).



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sapphi_snake on 27 January 2011

This guy should just go away...



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sapphi_snake on 27 January 2011
Soleron said:

I hate to break the trend here, but the actual words in the OP's quote are NOT objectionable. It says "exalt violence and portray anti-social behavior or the trivialization of human sexuality". If violence and sex are treated maturely with clear consequences and an element of morality, that also makes the film/game a better film/game because the consumer can identify with it and maybe take something away from it.

He's not saying they should be banned, he's saying content creators should be more reponsible when including those elements.

A person can create whatever movie or game they want. It's not their job to teach morals (art is ammoral), especially the kind of "morals" the Catholic Church wants people to learn.

And yes, he is saying they should all be banned. Anything that isn't in line with Catholic teachings should be banned in his opinion (no more people having premarital sex in movies, no more people using condoms in movies, no more gay characters, unless they're psychopats etc.).

The guy is delusional if he thinks his opinion is of any real value.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Mummelmann on 27 January 2011

The pope needs a crate of cola and a good LAN! Lighten up, old man!



pariz on 27 January 2011

And there goes nothing! Making it to the papers and the internet for free every now and then just demands him to make declarations as these.



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Xen on 27 January 2011

His audience is already not big fans of such games anyway...



pariz on 27 January 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Soleron said:

I hate to break the trend here, but the actual words in the OP's quote are NOT objectionable. It says "exalt violence and portray anti-social behavior or the trivialization of human sexuality". If violence and sex are treated maturely with clear consequences and an element of morality, that also makes the film/game a better film/game because the consumer can identify with it and maybe take something away from it.

He's not saying they should be banned, he's saying content creators should be more reponsible when including those elements.

A person can create whatever movie or game they want. It's not their job to teach morals (art is ammoral), especially the kind of "morals" the Catholic Church wants people to learn.

And yes, he is saying they should all be banned. Anything that isn't in line with Catholic teachings should be banned in his opinion (no more people having premarital sex in movies, no more people using condoms in movies, no more gay characters, unless they're psychopats etc.).

The guy is delusional if he thinks his opinion is of any real value.

I wouldn't bet these people buy their own words.

But they do have an audience, you know, and you gotta give them what they want.



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sapphi_snake on 27 January 2011
pariz said:
sapphi_snake said:
Soleron said:

I hate to break the trend here, but the actual words in the OP's quote are NOT objectionable. It says "exalt violence and portray anti-social behavior or the trivialization of human sexuality". If violence and sex are treated maturely with clear consequences and an element of morality, that also makes the film/game a better film/game because the consumer can identify with it and maybe take something away from it.

He's not saying they should be banned, he's saying content creators should be more reponsible when including those elements.

A person can create whatever movie or game they want. It's not their job to teach morals (art is ammoral), especially the kind of "morals" the Catholic Church wants people to learn.

And yes, he is saying they should all be banned. Anything that isn't in line with Catholic teachings should be banned in his opinion (no more people having premarital sex in movies, no more people using condoms in movies, no more gay characters, unless they're psychopats etc.).

The guy is delusional if he thinks his opinion is of any real value.

I wouldn't bet these people buy their own words.

But they do have an audience, you know, and you gotta give them what they want.

I somehow think he's not a very big fan of video games though. I mean, Nazis roamed the lands when he was yound (I think he was one of them actually).

And there are people who genuenly do things because he tells them to.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Beuli2 on 27 January 2011
J.a.M said:

I dont like religion being directed at kids either. It has caused more violence and death than any form of media.

Fuck what the pope thinks.

Yeah, and where have you heard of something like that?



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Khuutra on 27 January 2011
Soleron said:

I hate to break the trend here, but the actual words in the OP's quote are NOT objectionable. It says "exalt violence and portray anti-social behavior or the trivialization of human sexuality". If violence and sex are treated maturely with clear consequences and an element of morality, that also makes the film/game a better film/game because the consumer can identify with it and maybe take something away from it.

He's not saying they should be banned, he's saying content creators should be more reponsible when including those elements.

Sex is not an inherently moral or immoral act, and trying to attach inherent morality to it badly simplifies the sexual act and all of the circumstances surrounding it.