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Surprising Wii drop, but I guess having no game in the holiday lineup with near the power of NSMB will do that.. DKC Returns is a huge game, but moreso in the West, and still doesn't touch its popularity worldwide.

It is interesting to see the two lowest performing consoles worldwide at the top two spots in Japan (if you split up DS models at least). Interesting how Japan seems to see-saw back and forth from Nintendo to Sony over the past 15 years. Now they seem to be drifting more towards Sony products again, at least for the time being. But a large part of that is the lack of third party support for the Wii and thus lack of new games being cranked out that could maintain momentum. For reasons unknown to me, the PS3 seems to be far less affected by lack of games. Perhaps because of the Blu Ray?

Basically what I see happening is PS3 beating Wii the vast majority of weeks this year, but considering sales for hardware all around will likely be small and thus the margin of its lead will be as well, it won't matter much in the grand scheme of things. During the holiday season 2011, Wii could and should gain back most of its ground lost to Sony during the other 10 months of the year anyway.



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Wii needs price cut now when holiday boost is gone.



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Zlejedi said:

Wii needs price cut now when holiday boost is gone.


Normally you do a price cut in summer/fall. Doing it in January will not carry the potiential all year. You rather have poor sales this Quarter and next....and than make it up in the following.

(Speaking of which, has any console really had a price cut in January-March season?



 

Zlejedi said:

Wii needs price cut now when holiday boost is gone.


In Japan I don't think a price cut would even do a whole lot. Look what happened when it got one back in 2009, sales only increased marginally compared to what they were before the price cut and it was back to doing sub-20k weeks 6 months later. Japan just isn't nearly as price-sensitive as the rest of the world.



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Zlejedi said:

Wii needs price cut now when holiday boost is gone.

Won't happen until this fall, probably like 14,980 yen.  That also gives them room for the 29,980 yen Wii 2/HD/whatever in 2012.



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jarrod said:
Zlejedi said:

Wii needs price cut now when holiday boost is gone.

Won't happen until this fall, probably like 14,980 yen.  That also gives them room for the 29,980 yen Wii 2/HD/whatever in 2012.


If Wii 2 releases in March/April 2012 like I think it will Fall would be too late. Imho April would be good time. Or at least they could bundle more games with it to increase value.



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Zlejedi said:
jarrod said:
Zlejedi said:

Wii needs price cut now when holiday boost is gone.

Won't happen until this fall, probably like 14,980 yen.  That also gives them room for the 29,980 yen Wii 2/HD/whatever in 2012.


If Wii 2 releases in March/April 2012 like I think it will Fall would be too late. Imho April would be good time. Or at least they could bundle more games with it to increase value.

Maybe in summer then, that's sort of the timeline we saw for the DSL/i/LL pricedrops?  I agree, they need to do anything they can in Japan to stimulate sales asap... but on the other hand, it's Nintendo. :/



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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| PS3 | 33.190 | 59.612 | 35.156 | 92.802 | 96.747 | 6.180.292 |
| NDS | 32.824 | 87.118 | 64.284 | 119.942 | 169.750 | 32.270.640 |
| PSP | 31.014 | 32.841 | 73.213 | 63.855 | 221.735 | 16.714.063 |
| WII | 21.291 | 56.547 | 57.349 | 77.838 | 134.121 | 11.357.475 |
| 360 | 2.636 | 3.859 | 4.622 | 6.495 | 10.083 | 1.426.993 |
| PS2 | 1.629 | 2.547 | 2.580 | 4.176 | 5.672 | 21.700.272 |
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| ALL | 122.584 | 242.524 | 237.204 | 365.108 | 638.108 | 89.649.735 |
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| DSiLL | 17.452 | 44.122 | 30.418 | 61.574 | 75.639 | 2.009.156 |
| DSi | 13.416 | 38.486 | 27.292 | 51.902 | 77.470 | 5.595.629 |
| DSL | 1.956 | 4.510 | 6.574 | 6.466 | 16.641 | 18.080.384 |
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| PSP | 29.806 | 28.757 | 71.186 | 58.563 | 216.868 | 16.548.347 |
| PSPgo | 1.208 | 4.084 | 2.027 | 5.292 | 4.867 | 165.716 |
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I say to bring out the Vitality Sensor and Wii Relax first, as that I think has potential to be near Wii Fit huge. If that fails, THEN resort to the price drop. Nintendo seems reluctant to decrease the future value of their console, and I agree. They are going to need the price drop card later down the road. Games should always be the first line of defense in terms of keeping momentum. If that fails, THEN try the price drop.



Unlike MS and Sony, Nintendo have been losing money for the last 2 quarters I think, So they are unlikely to cut the price of the Wii and lose even more money



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 jarrod said:The Xbox360 or ps3 will not sell more than 75million units

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 2009 daveJ said: The wii will not break the 50% marketshare barrier it will go below the 40% marketshare barrier though in the future. VGChartz members: Impossible, youre an idiot that knows nothing about sales