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TT Makaveli said:
thismeintiel said:

This seals the deal for me.  Final Fantasy Versus 13 is staying a PS3 exclusive.  This event would have been the event to reveal it going multi-plat, since so much was revealed regarding upcoming games and their platforms, but they didn't.  I think one reason is Nomura wanted to focus on one system to make the game the best it could be.  Another may be all the backlash they received after FF13 went mulit-plat.  Wada may have made some odd choices recently, but I don't think he's a complete moron.

no not really...somebody already said this...this is a conference in Japan...if they announce it there some swords would be flying all around that room...if they want announce Xbox360 multiplat E3 is the perfect place for it...like with FF XIII...

Yeah although I doubt it will be multiplat(nor do I care tbh) but announcing that probably one of the pretty anticipated titles by the FF fans is going multiplat in front of an audience that likely has a ratio of 49:1 when it comes to PS3:Xbox is NOT a good idea.



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PearlJam said:
Hynad said:
PearlJam said:

Do I really have to explain this to you? I thought it was generally accepted by people that have 20/20 vision. Resident Evil 4, anything from Factor5, and the Metroid Prime series. Start by looking there.

Even StarFox Adventures had shader effects that no PS2 game could touch.



Yet most people with non deficient eyes agreed to say that God of War 2 managed to go head to head with early 360 games.

And no games on the Cube run in 1080i, like Gran Turismo 4 does.  

So, again, while many games looked really good on the Cube, the PS2 had its fair amount of technical gems to rival those.  Take off your goggles already, seeing with 20/20 vision is good.

God of War 2 could only "compete" with the very WORST batch of launch 360 games, games that were ported from the PS2 era. Even then the 360 games had nice shader effects, better draw distances, higher poly counts,  bump mapping and normal mapping that the PS2 couldn't pull off in it's wildest dreams.

The GameCube could do many modern effects on a very limited scale. The same thing can't be said about the PS2.

Your attitude doesn't surprise me, for some reason people bought into the whole "Emotion Engine" "Toy Story Graphics" bullshit that Sony was feeding them. You had fanboys arguing that the PS2 was the most powerful system last gen, when it was clearly the weakest by quite a margin.

Stealthily calling me a fanboy isn't the best way to argue your case.  

The Cube had strengths that the PS2 didn't have, the same with the PS2 over the Cube.  For every game the Cube had that pushed intricate textures and shading like Resident Evil 4 and Metroid Prime 2 (one of the Cube's strength over the PS2), you had games like Jak3 and Shadow of the Colossus that pushed field of view (one of the PS2's strength) like nothing on the Cube.  

For every Metroid Prime, Zelda Twilight Princess F-Zero GX, Resident Evil 4, you had a Metal Gear Solid 3, Final Fantasy XII, Gran Turismo 4 and Jak 3.

In the end, what counts to my eyes is the end result.  When taken as what they are, both systems had games that looked incredibly good, both technically and artistically speaking, for varied and different reasons.  And both of them had titles that rose above the rest, making people think that the other systems couldn't handle such feats.  



Jin_Shihouin said:

Would be interesting if versus outsold 13 on ps3. It is not impossible, maybe not even improbable.

Yes it would.  Would pretty much prove that FF 13 would have sold the same, if not more, if it had remained in it's original form and an exclusive. 

@ TT Makaveli

I think there would be swords thrown around in Japan, even if they waited til E3 to reveal it was multi-plat.  Didn't stop all the backlash from FF13 just because it was announced in the US.  If it is revealed at E3 to still be a PS3 exclusive, hopefully this will stop all the "oh it's definitely going multi-plat" comments.  Just gets annoying, especially after MGS4 a couple years back.

And really, it's not so much people not wanting it to be multi-plat, it's them not being upfront about it.  No one was in an uproar when FF13-2 was announced multi-plat at the get go.  But, it's being strung along thinking that the game is releasing on one platform and being optimized for that system, only to have it delayed so they can work on a quick port to get both versions of the game out at the same time.  Wada did this before and it didn't really help the image of the company or sales of the game, and I just don't see him willing to risk anymore backlash by doin the same thing.  And this time would be even worse, since FFV13 has been in development for even longer, with them saying it's PS3 exclusive the whole time.



NotStan said:
TT Makaveli said:
thismeintiel said:

This seals the deal for me.  Final Fantasy Versus 13 is staying a PS3 exclusive.  This event would have been the event to reveal it going multi-plat, since so much was revealed regarding upcoming games and their platforms, but they didn't.  I think one reason is Nomura wanted to focus on one system to make the game the best it could be.  Another may be all the backlash they received after FF13 went mulit-plat.  Wada may have made some odd choices recently, but I don't think he's a complete moron.

no not really...somebody already said this...this is a conference in Japan...if they announce it there some swords would be flying all around that room...if they want announce Xbox360 multiplat E3 is the perfect place for it...like with FF XIII...

Yeah although I doubt it will be multiplat(nor do I care tbh) but announcing that probably one of the pretty anticipated titles by the FF fans is going multiplat in front of an audience that likely has a ratio of 49:1 when it comes to PS3:Xbox is NOT a good idea.

yeah but wasnt that the case with FF XIII 2/3 years ago?



TT Makaveli said:
NotStan said:
TT Makaveli said:
thismeintiel said:

This seals the deal for me.  Final Fantasy Versus 13 is staying a PS3 exclusive.  This event would have been the event to reveal it going multi-plat, since so much was revealed regarding upcoming games and their platforms, but they didn't.  I think one reason is Nomura wanted to focus on one system to make the game the best it could be.  Another may be all the backlash they received after FF13 went mulit-plat.  Wada may have made some odd choices recently, but I don't think he's a complete moron.

no not really...somebody already said this...this is a conference in Japan...if they announce it there some swords would be flying all around that room...if they want announce Xbox360 multiplat E3 is the perfect place for it...like with FF XIII...

Yeah although I doubt it will be multiplat(nor do I care tbh) but announcing that probably one of the pretty anticipated titles by the FF fans is going multiplat in front of an audience that likely has a ratio of 49:1 when it comes to PS3:Xbox is NOT a good idea.

yeah but wasnt that the case with FF XIII 2/3 years ago?

Was it announced at a similar conference to this?



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NotStan said:
TT Makaveli said:
NotStan said:
TT Makaveli said:
thismeintiel said:

This seals the deal for me.  Final Fantasy Versus 13 is staying a PS3 exclusive.  This event would have been the event to reveal it going multi-plat, since so much was revealed regarding upcoming games and their platforms, but they didn't.  I think one reason is Nomura wanted to focus on one system to make the game the best it could be.  Another may be all the backlash they received after FF13 went mulit-plat.  Wada may have made some odd choices recently, but I don't think he's a complete moron.

no not really...somebody already said this...this is a conference in Japan...if they announce it there some swords would be flying all around that room...if they want announce Xbox360 multiplat E3 is the perfect place for it...like with FF XIII...

Yeah although I doubt it will be multiplat(nor do I care tbh) but announcing that probably one of the pretty anticipated titles by the FF fans is going multiplat in front of an audience that likely has a ratio of 49:1 when it comes to PS3:Xbox is NOT a good idea.

yeah but wasnt that the case with FF XIII 2/3 years ago?

Was it announced at a similar conference to this?

I thought that FF13 was announced for the 360 at E3, 2008 or 2009. it dosent matter tbh, the sales of FF13 on th 360 in Japan dont justify a release for Versus there. i think it will be going multiplat for the west, because the western sales for FF13 on the 360 are comparable to the PS3 sales.



A203D said:
NotStan said:
TT Makaveli said:
NotStan said:
TT Makaveli said:
thismeintiel said:

This seals the deal for me.  Final Fantasy Versus 13 is staying a PS3 exclusive.  This event would have been the event to reveal it going multi-plat, since so much was revealed regarding upcoming games and their platforms, but they didn't.  I think one reason is Nomura wanted to focus on one system to make the game the best it could be.  Another may be all the backlash they received after FF13 went mulit-plat.  Wada may have made some odd choices recently, but I don't think he's a complete moron.

no not really...somebody already said this...this is a conference in Japan...if they announce it there some swords would be flying all around that room...if they want announce Xbox360 multiplat E3 is the perfect place for it...like with FF XIII...

Yeah although I doubt it will be multiplat(nor do I care tbh) but announcing that probably one of the pretty anticipated titles by the FF fans is going multiplat in front of an audience that likely has a ratio of 49:1 when it comes to PS3:Xbox is NOT a good idea.

yeah but wasnt that the case with FF XIII 2/3 years ago?

Was it announced at a similar conference to this?

I thought that FF13 was announced for the 360 at E3, 2008 or 2009. it dosent matter tbh, the sales of FF13 on th 360 in Japan dont justify a release for Versus there. i think it will be going multiplat for the west, because the western sales for FF13 on the 360 are comparable to the PS3 sales.

Yeah true, even if FFXII released alongside the PS3 version, I can't see it making more than 200k at maximum, those sales can be neglected if it means extra sales for PS3 as a result of exclusivity in Japan.



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stopstopp said:
dtewi said:

People STILL think that because FF13 was ported content was cut?

I thought humanity to have evolved past that point.

The fact that the game was linear as hell, the characters were horrible and there were no towns didn't help.

And how can you tell the game wasn't meant to be like this from the start? Honestly now, this happens a lot with many games and movies.

Seriously, stop trying to put off your speculation as fact. Until you have proof, your argument holds no water.



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Lyrikalstylez said:

they should get rid of nomura, puts fanboyism in front of the company tsk_tsk

Then any 3rd party might as well fire people in their team who develop exclusively for a platform.



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PearlJam said:

PS2 had a DVD drive, while the GameCube used mini-disks that only held 1.5 GB of data. But only an insane person would argue that the PS2 had better graphics.

Let's not forget that the PS3 has a very limited memory architecture, and only 512 MB of Ram. If it had maybe twice the memory of the 360, people making these claims would have a point. You could have GBs worth of data, but you still have to work with the limited RAM.

And with billion times better CPU