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Kasz216 said:
Acevil said:
Kasz216 said:
rocketpig said:
Acevil said:

Since it seems I am one sided: CBSC has made a lot of stupid decisions in the past, because simply they think be their actions results in everyone being satisfied. Good thing they don't control the contents of books, or maybe we would have words removed out of our books. 


I'd hate to see what those morons would do to Mark Twain's catalog of novels.

This is so bloody dumb that I can't even wrap my head around it.


Well you know it's  not just Canada with Mark Twain. (depending what it looks like there.)  Some publishing company is publising a new edition without the word nigger.   Replacing it with Slave.


Well we allow students in Grade 9 to read To Kill a Mockingbird uncensored. Don't know if schools offer Mark Twain. 

9th grade?  That was in our 6th grade slow readers class... I never did get a chance to read that cause I was actually in the advanced reading class.

I thought it was on the list of banned books in the USA? I read it much earlier, but it was one of the books we had to read along with Orwell books. (among others that year)



 

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Farmageddon said:
Kasz216 said:
rocketpig said:
Acevil said:

Since it seems I am one sided: CBSC has made a lot of stupid decisions in the past, because simply they think be their actions results in everyone being satisfied. Good thing they don't control the contents of books, or maybe we would have words removed out of our books. 


I'd hate to see what those morons would do to Mark Twain's catalog of novels.

This is so bloody dumb that I can't even wrap my head around it.


Well you know it's  not just Canada with Mark Twain. (depending what it looks like there.)  Some publishing company is publising a new edition without the word nigger.   Replacing it with Slave.


A much more respectful word.

But nonsensical, and kinda destroying the whole point of why the word was in there in the first place... because Nigger and Slave don't mean the same thing.



Kasz216 said:
rocketpig said:
Acevil said:

Since it seems I am one sided: CBSC has made a lot of stupid decisions in the past, because simply they think be their actions results in everyone being satisfied. Good thing they don't control the contents of books, or maybe we would have words removed out of our books. 


I'd hate to see what those morons would do to Mark Twain's catalog of novels.

This is so bloody dumb that I can't even wrap my head around it.

Well you know it's  not just Canada with Mark Twain. (depending what it looks like there.)  Some publishing company is publising a new edition without the word nigger.   Replacing it with Slave.

http://wildcat.arizona.edu/wildlife/leave-my-huck-finn-alone-1.1840392


Not banning or anything like the case about.. but dumb.

That is a lone publisher taking an out-of-copyright work and changing it because they want to do so.

Is it dumb? Yes, incredibly, if only because they're not bright enough to realize that Twain was using the word to push a social message, not because of any kind of in-built racism. His decision was very, very intentional.

Still, that's a far cry from a country banning a song from radio.




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Acevil said:
Kasz216 said:
Acevil said:
Kasz216 said:
rocketpig said:
Acevil said:

Since it seems I am one sided: CBSC has made a lot of stupid decisions in the past, because simply they think be their actions results in everyone being satisfied. Good thing they don't control the contents of books, or maybe we would have words removed out of our books. 


I'd hate to see what those morons would do to Mark Twain's catalog of novels.

This is so bloody dumb that I can't even wrap my head around it.


Well you know it's  not just Canada with Mark Twain. (depending what it looks like there.)  Some publishing company is publising a new edition without the word nigger.   Replacing it with Slave.


Well we allow students in Grade 9 to read To Kill a Mockingbird uncensored. Don't know if schools offer Mark Twain. 

9th grade?  That was in our 6th grade slow readers class... I never did get a chance to read that cause I was actually in the advanced reading class.

I thought it was on the list of banned books in the USA? I read it much earlier, but it was one of the books we had to read along with Orwell books. (among others that year)

There is no such thing as a banned books list in the USA. Individual fuckwits on a district level can choose to not teach certain books or carry them in libraries but there is nothing on the national level.




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Acevil said:
Kasz216 said:
Acevil said:
Kasz216 said:
rocketpig said:
Acevil said:

Since it seems I am one sided: CBSC has made a lot of stupid decisions in the past, because simply they think be their actions results in everyone being satisfied. Good thing they don't control the contents of books, or maybe we would have words removed out of our books. 


I'd hate to see what those morons would do to Mark Twain's catalog of novels.

This is so bloody dumb that I can't even wrap my head around it.


Well you know it's  not just Canada with Mark Twain. (depending what it looks like there.)  Some publishing company is publising a new edition without the word nigger.   Replacing it with Slave.


Well we allow students in Grade 9 to read To Kill a Mockingbird uncensored. Don't know if schools offer Mark Twain. 

9th grade?  That was in our 6th grade slow readers class... I never did get a chance to read that cause I was actually in the advanced reading class.

I thought it was on the list of banned books in the USA? I read it much earlier, but it was one of the books we had to read along with Orwell books. 

I don't think the USA has banned books... Either way I'm 29 so it's not like this was recent.

 

Oddly in the advanced reading group we were reading some Sci-Fi book about robots taking over the jobs more and more, and it forcing most people who didn't get good grades to be unemployed and live off government welfare with nothing to really look foward too in life... except drugs and then a strange VR game which was really a covert government program to train people to be sent to other planets to colonize.  Because apparently sending the unemployed to different planets is the best way to colonize/reduce population.

I think they might of let us pick and that explains the weird choice.

 



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Kasz216 said:
Acevil said:
Kasz216 said:
Acevil said:
Kasz216 said:
rocketpig said:
Acevil said:

Since it seems I am one sided: CBSC has made a lot of stupid decisions in the past, because simply they think be their actions results in everyone being satisfied. Good thing they don't control the contents of books, or maybe we would have words removed out of our books. 


I'd hate to see what those morons would do to Mark Twain's catalog of novels.

This is so bloody dumb that I can't even wrap my head around it.


Well you know it's  not just Canada with Mark Twain. (depending what it looks like there.)  Some publishing company is publising a new edition without the word nigger.   Replacing it with Slave.


Well we allow students in Grade 9 to read To Kill a Mockingbird uncensored. Don't know if schools offer Mark Twain. 

9th grade?  That was in our 6th grade slow readers class... I never did get a chance to read that cause I was actually in the advanced reading class.

I thought it was on the list of banned books in the USA? I read it much earlier, but it was one of the books we had to read along with Orwell books. 

I don't think the USA has banned books... Either way I'm 29 so it's not like this was recent.

 

Oddly in the advanced reading group we were reading some Sci-Fi book about robots taking over the jobs more and more, and it forcing most people who didn't get good grades to be unemployed and live off government welfare with nothing to really look foward too in life... except drugs and then a strange VR game which was really a covert government program to train people to be sent to other planets to colonize.  Because apparently sending the unemployed to different planets is the best way to colonize/reduce population.

I think they might of let us pick and that explains the weird choice.

 

Strange book indeed, and they say the unemployed or the poor breed more (generalized statement), so that would be an effective strategy. 



 

rocketpig said:

http://reason.com/blog/2011/01/13/canada-bans-dire-straits-money

America has its problems but damn, I'm glad this ain't one of them.

Apparently no one in Canada is able to discern the difference between the use of a word to instill hatred and the use of a word for IRONICAL purposes, which is how the word "faggot" is used in "Money for Nothing".

On the other hand, it's refreshing to see that America hasn't cornered the market on stupid

"The King's Speech", a movie involving no violence of any kind, no nudity or sexual inuendo of any kind, is rated R in the states for 11 uses of the F word. The word is said 11 times in a learning environment, with no ill intent meant towards anyone else, the guy is just trying to get words out of his mouth to practice vocal exercies to get rid of his stutter. This is bullshit. Oh, and it's PG13 in Canada.

Not saying this makes Canada any less wrong for banning this song, but seriously, rated R! WTF!



Feylic said:
rocketpig said:

http://reason.com/blog/2011/01/13/canada-bans-dire-straits-money

America has its problems but damn, I'm glad this ain't one of them.

Apparently no one in Canada is able to discern the difference between the use of a word to instill hatred and the use of a word for IRONICAL purposes, which is how the word "faggot" is used in "Money for Nothing".

On the other hand, it's refreshing to see that America hasn't cornered the market on stupid

"The King's Speech", a movie involving no violence of any kind, no nudity or sexual inuendo of any kind, is rated R in the states for 11 uses of the F word. The word is said 11 times in a learning environment, with no ill intent meant towards anyone else, the guy is just trying to get words out of his mouth to practice vocal exercies to get rid of his stutter. This is bullshit. Oh, and it's PG13 in Canada.

Not saying this makes Canada any less wrong for banning this song, but seriously, rated R! WTF!

If you don't understand the film rating system in America, take a number and get in line.

Read up on Stone and Parker's take on the MPAA rating system when they made the South Park film. It's hilarious. Every time the film was rejected as being too obscene for even an R rating, they would turn around and make it WORSE. Eventually, the film was approved for an R rating. No one really understood why.




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Kasz216 said:
Farmageddon said:
Kasz216 said:


Well you know it's  not just Canada with Mark Twain. (depending what it looks like there.)  Some publishing company is publising a new edition without the word nigger.   Replacing it with Slave.


A much more respectful word.

But nonsensical, and kinda destroying the whole point of why the word was in there in the first place... because Nigger and Slave don't mean the same thing.

What to you mean they're not the same? :P

Really, sometimes PC stuff can be away more insulting than whatever they're censoring.



oh..so you think private broadcasters shouldnt actually determine what they want to play now? that the government should intervene and force private broadcasters to play certain things? fascinating...



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