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scat398 on 31 December 2010
AussieGecko said:
scat398 said:

I agree that hardcore games will come with a kinect controller specifically for FPS and TPS games but I disagree with the notion that Kinect needs this to be succesful. Kinect's core demographic is designed for casual gamers and just like the Wii, it has hit the sweet spot of sales and timing and will continue to be a huge success this coming up year. 

I believe Hardcore gamers will have the option to pick up a new gun peripheral made jointly with MS and the maker of the game, for example, I expect a gears of war gun to be released with Gears of war 3.

Gears 3 wont have Kinect support, Cliff Blezinski already said so. "hardcore" games are still possible, just shooters I dont think will be as easy as resident evil type of game, or dancing or sports for example. Will take some thinking I reckon

I know but that was before the huge delay announced till next fall.  I just have a feeling MS came to them and asked them to put something together to promote kinect to the hardcore gamers.  A gun made to work with gears would be a huge hit if it worked well.  Hardcore gamers would flock to kinect to virtually chainsaw their opponent atleast I would.  Will have to wait and see.



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AussieGecko on 31 December 2010
S.T.A.G.E. said:
AussieGecko said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I've seen it. I haven't seen gameplay. As I said I think the FAAST software should fix Kinects problem with manipulating 3D Space. Look it up.

Wgat problem you still havent even proved that Eyepet is more accurate then Kinectimals. You are simply going off what you have read. I havent seen one source for the information you're posing. I aint looking at faast until you start getting me sources. Until then I will take it that you don't actually have any sources apart from what Sony has released.


Eye pet is more accurate. Thats all I said. I haven't seen any sources from you either. 

Here is faast:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62wj8eJ0FHw

As I said, Kinect cannot do it alone. They need to acquire FAAST. I answered my own question essentially. Thanks for the talk though.

I amI am not the one making claims that one game is more accurate then the other, you are the one that is doing that, if you read my earlier posts you will see that I said both had their strengths then you started saying Move was more accurate/had more potential. I am just wanting to see certain sources for those.

As it is 4:53am (in 2011 baby :D) And i should realllly be sleeping I aint gonna watch a youtube video now because I wont pay attention but I will check it out when i wake up and give you a response. I probably wont disagree, i have heard a few people say ms should acquire something regarding kinect this is probably it.



 

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AussieGecko on 31 December 2010
scat398 said:

I know but that was before the huge delay announced till next fall.  I just have a feeling MS came to them and asked them to put something together to promote kinect to the hardcore gamers.  A gun made to work with gears would be a huge hit if it worked well.  Hardcore gamers would flock to kinect to virtually chainsaw their opponent atleast I would.  Will have to wait and see.

And the main reason i dont see a gun happening is that as someone has said earlier "You are the controller" is the tagline. Could you believe the uproar (to an extent) if Ms started releasing peripherals. I just don't see it happening. 

Fanle 4 would be the best chance (apart from forza 4) to test it for the wider established audience imo.



 

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S.T.A.G.E. on 31 December 2010
scat398 said:

I agree that hardcore games will come with a kinect controller specifically for FPS and TPS games but I disagree with the notion that Kinect needs this to be succesful. Kinect's core demographic is designed for casual gamers and just like the Wii, it has hit the sweet spot of sales and timing and will continue to be a huge success this coming up year. 

I believe Hardcore gamers will have the option to pick up a new gun peripheral made jointly with MS and the maker of the game, for example, I expect a gears of war gun to be released with Gears of war 3.


I never said the Kinect needed peripherals to be successful. I stated that to increase userbase and not become stagnant.



nightsurge on 31 December 2010
TRios_Zen said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TRios_Zen said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ROBOTECHHEAVEN said:

m$ and kinect dont need something like the crappy move type of controller add-on for it , i have enjoyed kinect very much since i bought it for me and my family. cant stop playing it, and i believe m$ knows how to make its core games work without a need for a add-on ( move controller ) to get the depth and movement u speak of. also m$/kinect has proven sony so wrong on which tech it should have backed with sales speaking very loudly this holiday and i know will continue strong into 2011. 

Actually, MS hasn't proven Sony wrong at  all. They just proved the power of simplicity can win over the masses. Thats about it. Kinect is a media hub as well as a casual gaming experience. This is its true power. I've read reviews and played Kinect in the mall at Macy's. Most reviews of Kinect's titles show massive restriction but moderately high replay value already. You and your partner are scanned into the camera and fixed into a box in which you're restricted to have your motions read. I know Kinect will outsell the Move, this isn't my problem. My problem is that I see no growth. If it was capable of growth Sony would've had it by now.

So from your op and the bolded I'm getting:

Sony said it wasn't cool, and since they aren't doing it, it really isn't cool, so obviously it's not cool!

Yep, you got it all figured out.

No. I'm stating what Microsoft must not have enough R&D time because Sony was studying what was cost effective and would give people the most for their money. I only used Sony as a point of reference because they used the tech and yes they wrote it off for good reason. They're after a broader audience than Microsoft seems to be  after. I'm not one of those guys who agrees with a company just because they are supposedly special to me. I have no loyalty to companies.

The underlying assumption is clear, you've said it multiple times now: Sony said it couldn't reach a larger audience, and you have accepted that as fact.  This is the basis of your entire argument.

Broken into it's simplest components I stand by my comment; you have accepted Sony's assessment of the tech as law and are saying because of that, it can't work.  It's flawed logic, sorry.

This.

It's pretty clear that you think Sony is right and MS is wrong.  By the way, SONY never said anything specific to Kinect, just one of their engineers that works specifically on tech demos for PS Move.  Surely there is noooo bias at all in that!

Flawed logic is flawed logic.



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Kissinger on 31 December 2010

How many people would buy Kinect and then another motion controller on top of that? 

Only a very small core audience which wouldn't make it worth releasing.

Also why would Microsoft even feel the need to respond to Move when it's been a failure compared to Kinect where it counts (moving consoles, game sales, etc).



Squilliam on 31 December 2010

1. Controller plus Kinect is a well known concept.

2. Kinect plus motion controller is a next generation concept, unlikely to be seen this generation. I.E. They're still working on it.

 



Tease.

gergroy on 31 December 2010

I love how people take the comments made by a COMPETITOR about the competing product as face value.  Of course there would be no agenda for a Sony engineer to try and belittle the competitions tech while praising their own.  This same engineer couldn't possibly be downplaying the benefits of the competing tech or anything, no, that isn't possible.  

Seriously people (i.e. S.T.A.G.E.) you are taking biased comments from a biased person at face value.  Sony is most definitely kicking themselves in the butt now that Kinect is out and it is such a success.  They bet on the wrong horse and they know it.



Slimebeast on 31 December 2010

I'm almost tempted to say flamebait thread lol (I don't mind though).

OT I kinda agree. First they might include the function to scan devices for Kinect like in that promo video where the guy took his ORL skateboard and scanned it into the game, and following that to make it easier for people they might release plastic controllers like the tennis racket and guns á la Wii. And maybe they would not be from Microsoft itself, maybe they be third party devices.



homer on 31 December 2010
AussieGecko said:

nah dont see it, controllers would be going backwards, and for those that have Kinect would be kinda ripped off in having to get a control as well. No chance in hell


I agree that adding the controller is against what kinect is about. Didn't you disagree with me on this subject in an earlier thread? Didn't I say adding a  traditional controller to kinect would defeat the purpose of kinect, but you argued that it would enhance games? Or am I mistaken?



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