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So... how successful the PSP2'll be????

Bigger than the PSP in all markets 77 29.17%
 
Bigger than the PSP in some markets 21 7.95%
 
Slightly more successful than the PSP 19 7.20%
 
Same level of success 32 12.12%
 
Lower than the PSP 73 27.65%
 
Death at arrival 42 15.91%
 
Total:264

I dont know wether it will beat nintendo's handehlds but im pretty shore it will beat the PSP. At the end of the day The PSP has sold over 60 million sustems which makes them the closest to ever beatign nintendo at there best area of gaming. This time around there is going to be no advantage because of brand etc because they are bith established know at Portable gamign brands. Its gona cpme down to which is the best and most afordable.



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Targetting the so-called "hardcore gamer" (the PS3 and Xbox 360 crowd) is a lost cause for SONY. Yes at one point they were successful at selling GTA and God of War on the PSP. But looking at God of War: Ghost of Sparta numbers right now, it's evident that not many gamers care anymore. They'd rather play God of War III than play a scaled down version of God of War. The PSP was a novelty at first because it was almost like a PS2 on the go. Now that the novelty of playing Playstation games on the go has worn off, people don't care as much.

The "hardcore gamer" demographic in North America mainly consists of males 15-34. These gamers, outside of commuter cities like New York City and Toronto, own automobiles and drive to and from work and school. They don't have that many opportunities for gaming on the go (and even if they did, using their iPhone for gaming would be more convenient for them as they can kill two birds with one stone). And when they are at home, they'd rather play on their PS3s and Xbox 360s than their PSPs.

Right now the PSP's appeal is limited to the Japanese, western otaku (lots of jrpgs) and the "Marcus" demographic (kids that feel they are too "old" for a DS but don't have the disposable income to get a PS3 or Xbox 360). And then you have those 15 year old North American and European PSP owners who bought the platform for the unique stuff (Patapon) or they want to play Sony properties on the go. But this group seems to be shrinking constantly. Yeah sure, I can understand why PSP hardware sales are down after 5 years because almost everyone who wants a PSP already has one. But why aren't people buying God of War: Ghost of Sparta? If you need any indication that targetting the PS3/Xbox 360 demographic is a lost cause these days, look no further than Ghost of Sparta's sales relative to Chain of Olympus.

Honestly I don't see things getting better for SONY. I can understand Sony's need to release a PSP2 to stay competitive with Nintendo in Japan. But things are only going to get worse in North America. The novelty of Playstation on the go is no longer a novelty. The jrpg selection will likely be more limited for the PSP2 (what incentive would small JP developers have to migrate to the more expensive development environment of the PSP2 when they can continue to create their 2D sprite-based and primitive 3D rpgs on the PSP and sell those games to both PSP and PSP2 owners?). And SONY will only alienate their Marcus demographic by releasing yet another high-priced handheld. Contrary to popular opinion, children don't all universally favor Nintendo. Plenty of kids have an obsession with wanting to be cool and grown up and have a revulsion towards "kiddie stuff" (they associate Nintendo with kiddie). But these same kids are not going to put down $250-$300 of their allowance or paper route money on a PSP2... The PSP2 has priced itself out of the range of this key under 15 demographic. And Sony missed a big opportunity to target a bigger chunk of this demographic by keeping the PSP at the current price point for ages ($170 $20 memory stick is a bit much for a 5 year old handheld) and having a hard-on for older games that don't give a shit about handheld gaming anymore.



Why do so many make the assumption that the Sony Ericsson Playstation Phone is the same thing as the PSP2? 



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MrT-Tar said:

The PSP2 will have an uphill struggle, almost vertical.  I'm not saying it can't be done, but it is going to be by  no means easy.

Among the PSP's strengths was that it had very good Japanese so called 'hardcore' 3rd party support, such as Peace Walker, Persona, Crisis Core, Monster Hunter, Valkyria Chronicles, BBS, etc.  Despite the likes of Persona and MGS not appearing at all on the DS, they are announced for the 3DS.


which means there's no way they'll EVER come out on a psp2???



loves2splooge said:

Targetting the so-called "hardcore gamer" (the PS3 and Xbox 360 crowd) is a lost cause for SONY. Yes at one point they were successful at selling GTA and God of War on the PSP. But looking at God of War: Ghost of Sparta numbers right now, it's evident that not many gamers care anymore. They'd rather play God of War III than play a scaled down version of God of War. The PSP was a novelty at first because it was almost like a PS2 on the go. Now that the novelty of playing Playstation games on the go has worn off, people don't care as much.

The "hardcore gamer" demographic in North America mainly consists of males 15-34. These gamers, outside of commuter cities like New York City and Toronto, own automobiles and drive to and from work and school. They don't have that many opportunities for gaming on the go (and even if they did, using their iPhone for gaming would be more convenient for them as they can kill two birds with one stone). And when they are at home, they'd rather play on their PS3s and Xbox 360s than their PSPs.

Right now the PSP's appeal is limited to the Japanese, western otaku (lots of jrpgs) and the "Marcus" demographic (kids that feel they are too "old" for a DS but don't have the disposable income to get a PS3 or Xbox 360). And then you have those 15 year old North American and European PSP owners who bought the platform for the unique stuff (Patapon) or they want to play Sony properties on the go. But this group seems to be shrinking constantly. Yeah sure, I can understand why PSP hardware sales are down after 5 years because almost everyone who wants a PSP already has one. But why aren't people buying God of War: Ghost of Sparta? If you need any indication that targetting the PS3/Xbox 360 demographic is a lost cause these days, look no further than Ghost of Sparta's sales relative to Chain of Olympus.

Honestly I don't see things getting better for SONY. I can understand Sony's need to release a PSP2 to stay competitive with Nintendo in Japan. But things are only going to get worse in North America. The novelty of Playstation on the go is no longer a novelty. The jrpg selection will likely be more limited for the PSP2 (what incentive would small JP developers have to migrate to the more expensive development environment of the PSP2 when they can continue to create their 2D sprite-based and primitive 3D rpgs on the PSP and sell those games to both PSP and PSP2 owners?). And SONY will only alienate their Marcus demographic by releasing yet another high-priced handheld. Contrary to popular opinion, children don't all universally favor Nintendo. Plenty of kids have an obsession with wanting to be cool and grown up and have a revulsion towards "kiddie stuff" (they associate Nintendo with kiddie). But these same kids are not going to put down $250-$300 of their allowance or paper route money on a PSP2... The PSP2 has priced itself out of the range of this key under 15 demographic. And Sony missed a big opportunity to target a bigger chunk of this demographic by keeping the PSP at the current price point for ages ($170 $20 memory stick is a bit much for a 5 year old handheld) and having a hard-on for older games that don't give a shit about handheld gaming anymore.

full throttle dooms day analysis on a console that hasn't even been announced yet.

does this happen ofthen here?

and how about we wait until we at least know what it'll look like first.



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goforgold said:
loves2splooge said:

Targetting the so-called "hardcore gamer" (the PS3 and Xbox 360 crowd) is a lost cause for SONY. Yes at one point they were successful at selling GTA and God of War on the PSP. But looking at God of War: Ghost of Sparta numbers right now, it's evident that not many gamers care anymore. They'd rather play God of War III than play a scaled down version of God of War. The PSP was a novelty at first because it was almost like a PS2 on the go. Now that the novelty of playing Playstation games on the go has worn off, people don't care as much.

The "hardcore gamer" demographic in North America mainly consists of males 15-34. These gamers, outside of commuter cities like New York City and Toronto, own automobiles and drive to and from work and school. They don't have that many opportunities for gaming on the go (and even if they did, using their iPhone for gaming would be more convenient for them as they can kill two birds with one stone). And when they are at home, they'd rather play on their PS3s and Xbox 360s than their PSPs.

Right now the PSP's appeal is limited to the Japanese, western otaku (lots of jrpgs) and the "Marcus" demographic (kids that feel they are too "old" for a DS but don't have the disposable income to get a PS3 or Xbox 360). And then you have those 15 year old North American and European PSP owners who bought the platform for the unique stuff (Patapon) or they want to play Sony properties on the go. But this group seems to be shrinking constantly. Yeah sure, I can understand why PSP hardware sales are down after 5 years because almost everyone who wants a PSP already has one. But why aren't people buying God of War: Ghost of Sparta? If you need any indication that targetting the PS3/Xbox 360 demographic is a lost cause these days, look no further than Ghost of Sparta's sales relative to Chain of Olympus.

Honestly I don't see things getting better for SONY. I can understand Sony's need to release a PSP2 to stay competitive with Nintendo in Japan. But things are only going to get worse in North America. The novelty of Playstation on the go is no longer a novelty. The jrpg selection will likely be more limited for the PSP2 (what incentive would small JP developers have to migrate to the more expensive development environment of the PSP2 when they can continue to create their 2D sprite-based and primitive 3D rpgs on the PSP and sell those games to both PSP and PSP2 owners?). And SONY will only alienate their Marcus demographic by releasing yet another high-priced handheld. Contrary to popular opinion, children don't all universally favor Nintendo. Plenty of kids have an obsession with wanting to be cool and grown up and have a revulsion towards "kiddie stuff" (they associate Nintendo with kiddie). But these same kids are not going to put down $250-$300 of their allowance or paper route money on a PSP2... The PSP2 has priced itself out of the range of this key under 15 demographic. And Sony missed a big opportunity to target a bigger chunk of this demographic by keeping the PSP at the current price point for ages ($170 $20 memory stick is a bit much for a 5 year old handheld) and having a hard-on for older games that don't give a shit about handheld gaming anymore.

full throttle dooms day analysis on a console that hasn't even been announced yet.

does this happen ofthen here?

and how about we wait until we at least know what it'll look like first.

 

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Seriously, people need to cut back on their prediction. We know NOTHING about the PSP2, and the Zeus is just another SE line like their Cybershot and Walkman line, and it will only spark some interest amongst Playstation fans similary how WP7 did with XBL players ( meaning it will do decent numbers, it probably wont be an N-gage, but the PSP2 is where its all at ).



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I don't think Sony can innovate, and since they have already made a portable PS2 and a successor is always one gen ahead in graphics, they are kinda forced to rely on power, wich won't work for a handheld.

If they go DD only, noone will buy it, but a CD-like medium won't be a great soloution either.

The only chance they have is third party support, but why should third parties feel convinced to out their big games on PSP2 when they have the 3DS?

Considering that Sony has taken so much losses with their gaming division, I don't think they can play their regular financial attricion game with moneyhatting third parties and undercutting hardware.

I will be greatly surprised it it isn't dead on arrival.



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snakenobi said:

very succesfull based on the fact that it will be a phone


The latest issue of Game Informer reveled that Sony is working on two seperate devices, one of which will be the rumored Playstation phone. Don't know if that can be elevated above rumor for now, but it seemed enough information to go into print so that might say something.



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KungKras said:

I don't think Sony can innovate, and since they have already made a portable PS2 and a successor is always one gen ahead in graphics, they are kinda forced to rely on power, wich won't work for a handheld.

If they go DD only, noone will buy it, but a CD-like medium won't be a great soloution either.

The only chance they have is third party support, but why should third parties feel convinced to out their big games on PSP2 when they have the 3DS?

I will be greatly surprised it it isn't dead on arrival.

really *twist head in confusion*



goforgold said:
MrT-Tar said:

The PSP2 will have an uphill struggle, almost vertical.  I'm not saying it can't be done, but it is going to be by  no means easy.

Among the PSP's strengths was that it had very good Japanese so called 'hardcore' 3rd party support, such as Peace Walker, Persona, Crisis Core, Monster Hunter, Valkyria Chronicles, BBS, etc.  Despite the likes of Persona and MGS not appearing at all on the DS, they are announced for the 3DS.


which means there's no way they'll EVER come out on a psp2???

I think they will appear on the platform, I even think the 'main' portable MH games will be on PSP2 rather than 3DS.  What I mean is that I think this gen for many of these series the PSP was seen by the developers as the only viable handheld platform to release the game on, despite the DS' massive and diverse userbase.  For series like MGS, PSP had in effect a handheld monopoly (I'm excluding the Iphone MGS game).  As that monopoly appears to have disappeared for next gen, many might see that as one less reason to own a PSP2 as well as or instead of a 3DS.