theprof00 said: It wasn't an elaborate move, and neither was the move you are referencing elaborate. The tieing up is very simple. It's not complicated, linkz. I don't like this tone I'm starting to get from you. It reeks of undermining. Calling simple strategy elaborate, calling a change of heart flip flopping, or some vague "I don't like how it all went down" to my confusion over scottie's first game. Scottie hasn't been causing any confusion. It's his first game EVER, on any forum. He said it himself. His last words reek of butthurt, and he seriously thought he was helping. This is different from Radish last game. I would like, but do not expect, a full reason why scottie is a better lynch than SaK, and I KNOW you're very insightful, so I'd like to see what your reasoning is, because I haven't seen anything that is more suspicious about scottie than SaK. |
It was an overstatement. But FF is right, it's somewhere in the middle.
If I thought it was just a simple change of heart I wouldn't have said anything:
First you gave scottie a HoS and said you were for lynching a lurker, most likely scottie.
Then, you turn around and say you don't think scottie is actually lurking, and in your experience someone gone a long time is often a townie. Also it reads as those that reappear after being accused of lurking are often mafia, yet you make no further comments on scottie for quite a while, even though several players quoted you on that.
Here in the midst of 'Truck's timing' you say you were still suspicious of scottie. For what? Only times you mentioned him(other than repeating j0's question of it being his first game/being inexperienced for the concrete limit) were for being on ST's list of day one people yet to post(which scottie didn't actually belong on since he had two posts) and for saying you'd like to lynch him for lurking. Yet as pointed above you then stated you didn't think he was lurking.
Next up is the vote for scottie with no reasoning at the time, but quickly backed up by saying scottie has only posted in defense of himself/active lurking.
Later you reveal the "elaborate scheme" of tying up the votes to flush out scum, but you're also adamant that scottie made an extremely scummy post that was worse than what radish did last round and scottie "really [HAS] to die."
More "elaborate schemes. Apparently you set up a ruse to try to get scottie to confess. Also now you're saying you defended scottie earlier(I guess saying he wasn't lurking and probably not mafia?) to play along with Gnizmo who you suspect is trying to outwit you.
Finally you switch your vote back to SAK. A move I question is another effort to flush out scum, as I already stated, or is it who you think most should be lynch? By saying your defense of scottie was part of playing along, it seems you've really been leaning on scottie this entire time. But you're backing off now because scottie's last words reek of "butthurt."
I don't mind your strategies, no matter how simple or complex, as efforts to flush out scum. However, do realize that I nor anyone else can know anything besides what you actually post, and to me your actions especially as far as scottie goes don't give me a good feeling. It's vague(same for the first/second game thing, which I'll also get to) because I can't describe it any better. I don't think you're scum because of it, but as opposed to usually looking forward to a prof post I've now grown to feeling like I should just skim past them for the rest of day two. I think a lot of that feeling can be attributed to the fact that we've trickled down to 4 or 5 players as well.
On the first/second game thing. When you first said you played two games with scottie and then posted you were sure of it since day 1, I immediately thought that you didn't know that during day one, but scottie could have pointed it out to you during the first night. Now that scottie says it's his very first forum game, I do believe that you really just weren't sure at all. On the other hand, your statement that you knew it at the start and you knew it very recently gives me that vague feeling as I said.
Yes, scottie has been causing confusion. Well he would be if there were anyone here to actually confuse. He thought about the results of his words['Nen is town, doc should save him from mafia!' means mafia won't kill him, which means doc can try to save someone else] but never bothered to think about the fact that as a non-cop his words alone aren't significant enough to others OR the fact that he doesn't actually know what nen is and could be protecting scum? Seriously, that I really would call elaborate or a scheme, but it fails in logic so much that I feel it was just thrown together to confuse the town. I do think scottie will flip scum and I really don't know what to make of the relationship with nen. I had thought nen was town earlier, but his vote of SAK has made me lean otherwise. Though now scottie's behavior has confused me a great deal as to nen's alignment.