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PullusPardus said:

but this is the best thing to ever happen to FFXIII

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O_O....epic.



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Chibi.V.29 said:
Rob-Ot said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Mad55 said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Carl2291 said:
NiKKoM said:

Neh... the meltdowns where worth it.. priceless.. We won't see such a meltdown for years..

Versus XIII is going to the 360 in January.

or

Final Fantasy VII Remake being on a NONE Sony platform.

or

A Sony console being undertracked.

 

Any of 'em could do it!

If versus went to 360 id just stop liking SE XDDDD if they made ff7 for a non sony consol id go on a rampage a burnt SE hq to the ground (^.^)

Lol i hope your not serious.

hahaha i hope so too :P

I don't think going multiplat is a big issue. The problem with FF13 is its story, dialogue and half the characters. If the game gave us the story that was there in the datalog (that made sense, the one told in the game didn't) then it would be a much better experience. Did FF13 going multiplat mean the writers wrote a horribly cliched and corny script? No. Did FF13 going multiplat mean the writers who had a great story  (as the one in the datalog was good) just weren't able to tell it in game? No. The rest of the game was pretty good especially the battle system and music, but it failed at the story, thats unacceptable for me in a linear JRPG, because story is your saving grace.

If versus does use the open map thng again its gona be quite annoying on 360. its not like with ff13 where its so linear er it doesnt matter, what if u wanna go somewhere for 1 sec to get summin? do u have to change disks once to get there and once to get back? XDDDDD

haha I never thought about that. Is it confirmed backtracking was removed from FF13 due to Xbox 360? Star Ocean IV needed you to change discs while going back to older planets on Xbox 360, but not on PS3. So if backtracking is planned it won't be removed, but that was a Tri-Ace game, I appreciate this is a different developer we are talking about.



Rob-Ot said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Rob-Ot said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Mad55 said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Carl2291 said:
NiKKoM said:

Neh... the meltdowns where worth it.. priceless.. We won't see such a meltdown for years..

Versus XIII is going to the 360 in January.

or

Final Fantasy VII Remake being on a NONE Sony platform.

or

A Sony console being undertracked.

 

Any of 'em could do it!

If versus went to 360 id just stop liking SE XDDDD if they made ff7 for a non sony consol id go on a rampage a burnt SE hq to the ground (^.^)

Lol i hope your not serious.

hahaha i hope so too :P

I don't think going multiplat is a big issue. The problem with FF13 is its story, dialogue and half the characters. If the game gave us the story that was there in the datalog (that made sense, the one told in the game didn't) then it would be a much better experience. Did FF13 going multiplat mean the writers wrote a horribly cliched and corny script? No. Did FF13 going multiplat mean the writers who had a great story  (as the one in the datalog was good) just weren't able to tell it in game? No. The rest of the game was pretty good especially the battle system and music, but it failed at the story, thats unacceptable for me in a linear JRPG, because story is your saving grace.

If versus does use the open map thng again its gona be quite annoying on 360. its not like with ff13 where its so linear er it doesnt matter, what if u wanna go somewhere for 1 sec to get summin? do u have to change disks once to get there and once to get back? XDDDDD

haha I never thought about that. Is it confirmed backtracking was removed from FF13 due to Xbox 360? Star Ocean IV needed you to change discs while going back to older planets on Xbox 360, but not on PS3. So if backtracking is planned it won't be removed, but that was a Tri-Ace game, I appreciate this is a different developer we are talking about.

No ff13 wasnt change to being linear for the xbox thats just a myth XD it was always like that it just made it easy to do.l Thing is that apparently (there is an article on vgc somewhere) they are changing it back to the good ol days when you could go back anywhere you have gone before. I will lol if it has a little bracket saying which disk you need to go to which place XDDDD 



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I didn't start this thread for a discussion about how good FF13 is or what you do or don't like about it. I'm sure there are 99999 threads on that subject already.

I wanted to see what people think today of the insane hype surrounding the x360 version announcement at e3 2008, and how the original 'megaton' predictions among many gamers completely fizzled out. Now that it's late 2010 and the game has released in all major regions, I feel we should be able to explain why so many gamers were completely and unquestionably wrong in their reception of the event.

It caused a lot of meltdowns which is always amusing, sure. But incase some of you missed it, in the end, FF13 going multiplat was not a big deal at all. So what happened between then and the release of FF13? Why were so many so wrong?



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Chibi.V.29 said:
Rob-Ot said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Rob-Ot said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Mad55 said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Carl2291 said:
NiKKoM said:

Neh... the meltdowns where worth it.. priceless.. We won't see such a meltdown for years..

Versus XIII is going to the 360 in January.

or

Final Fantasy VII Remake being on a NONE Sony platform.

or

A Sony console being undertracked.

 

Any of 'em could do it!

If versus went to 360 id just stop liking SE XDDDD if they made ff7 for a non sony consol id go on a rampage a burnt SE hq to the ground (^.^)

Lol i hope your not serious.

hahaha i hope so too :P

I don't think going multiplat is a big issue. The problem with FF13 is its story, dialogue and half the characters. If the game gave us the story that was there in the datalog (that made sense, the one told in the game didn't) then it would be a much better experience. Did FF13 going multiplat mean the writers wrote a horribly cliched and corny script? No. Did FF13 going multiplat mean the writers who had a great story  (as the one in the datalog was good) just weren't able to tell it in game? No. The rest of the game was pretty good especially the battle system and music, but it failed at the story, thats unacceptable for me in a linear JRPG, because story is your saving grace.

If versus does use the open map thng again its gona be quite annoying on 360. its not like with ff13 where its so linear er it doesnt matter, what if u wanna go somewhere for 1 sec to get summin? do u have to change disks once to get there and once to get back? XDDDDD

haha I never thought about that. Is it confirmed backtracking was removed from FF13 due to Xbox 360? Star Ocean IV needed you to change discs while going back to older planets on Xbox 360, but not on PS3. So if backtracking is planned it won't be removed, but that was a Tri-Ace game, I appreciate this is a different developer we are talking about.

No ff13 wasnt change to being linear for the xbox thats just a myth XD it was always like that it just made it easy to do.l Thing is that apparently (there is an article on vgc somewhere) they are changing it back to the good ol days when you could go back anywhere you have gone before. I will lol if it has a little bracket saying which disk you need to go to which place XDDDD 

I doubt you will need to different devlopers handle things differently. Just look at fallout and just cause they are huge games but they dont require multiple discs. I believe the cg scenes took up more space than anything in ff 13. if versus is put on 360 it will probably need multipe discs but but i do9ubt youll have to constantly swith them while backtracking.



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really, yes overhyped... not sure if I understand the direct connotation of it. But I won't ignore you like the rest of the people in this thread.

The reason for me is because FF7 (the most popular one),8. and 11 were on microsoft platforms (PC)...

so that would make FF7,8,11,13,14 have all appeared on a Microsoft Platforms

5/8 last final fantasy's or 5/9 if you count (X-2) have appeared on a microsoft platform...



Rob-Ot said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Mad55 said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Carl2291 said:
NiKKoM said:

Neh... the meltdowns where worth it.. priceless.. We won't see such a meltdown for years..

Versus XIII is going to the 360 in January.

or

Final Fantasy VII Remake being on a NONE Sony platform.

or

A Sony console being undertracked.

 

Any of 'em could do it!

If versus went to 360 id just stop liking SE XDDDD if they made ff7 for a non sony consol id go on a rampage a burnt SE hq to the ground (^.^)

Lol i hope your not serious.

hahaha i hope so too :P

I don't think going multiplat is a big issue. The problem with FF13 is its story, dialogue and half the characters. If the game gave us the story that was there in the datalog (that made sense, the one told in the game didn't) then it would be a much better experience. Did FF13 going multiplat mean the writers wrote a horribly cliched and corny script? No. Did FF13 going multiplat mean the writers who had a great story  (as the one in the datalog was good) just weren't able to tell it in game? No. The rest of the game was pretty good especially the battle system and music, but it failed at the story, thats unacceptable for me in a linear JRPG, because story is your saving grace.


I don't think the multiplat decision really helped with the quality of the game.  Let's be realistic, there were probably decisions made that we will never know about in dealing with the changing structure of the game from it's original plan so that the disc swaps would work out.

I agree with you on the rest.  There were many other problems with the game that being exclusive to the PS3 would not remedy.  It would have probably still had no real towns / shops, etc. if it was exclusive.  Maybe, backtracking would have been easier if it was exclusive, but that's about the only thing I can think of.

 

OT:  I agree with the OP.  Many were saying at the time that it was the final nail in the coffin for the PS3, and that really didn't happen.  I'm one of the few people who doesn't think any of the consoles are doomed this generation.  PSP had arguably the worst performance this gen, but it was the first console to make serious inroads into Nintendo's handheld dominance.  Just like the original Xbox, the PSP was successful in one region and lackluster in the rest.



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FinalEvangelion said:

I don't think the multiplat decision really helped with the quality of the game.  Let's be realistic, there were probably decisions made that we will never know about in dealing with the changing structure of the game from it's original plan so that the disc swaps would work out.

I agree with you on the rest.  There were many other problems with the game that being exclusive to the PS3 would not remedy.  It would have probably still had no real towns / shops, etc. if it was exclusive.  Maybe, backtracking would have been easier if it was exclusive, but that's about the only thing I can think of.

 

OT:  I agree with the OP.  Many were saying at the time that it was the final nail in the coffin for the PS3, and that really didn't happen.  I'm one of the few people who doesn't think any of the consoles are doomed this generation.  PSP had arguably the worst performance this gen, but it was the first console to make serious inroads into Nintendo's handheld dominance.  Just like the original Xbox, the PSP was successful in one region and lackluster in the rest.

Yeah maybe some content was cut because of xbox 360. But we'll never know that. The story and everything else would still be a problem. To be honest the biggest problem of the game is given in this developer interview; http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2010/10/exclusive_behind_the_scenes_of_3.php?utm_source=feedburner . Believe it or not only around 1 and a bit years were spent on actual development on the game itself because the demo of the game actually began the main development. Thats the biggest problem, its like a rushed product.

But its all a matter of opinion in the end, many of my friends really liked the game and seeing the thread on it a few days back it seems the game has a very mixed response ranging from great to good to average to terrible. 



I agree with the OP.  Or something.



I really don't expect another huge meltdown like that until an entirely new generation of gamers take the floor. The reason it was so huge (the FFXII going multi I mean) was because it was really unexpected, and because it came at a time where Sony supporters where desperate for an exclusive game to rival the 360's library.

I think Sony supporters aren't as emotional to exclusives being lost after that bomb. 360 supporters had a similar loss like ME2, the meltdowns were just as fun. I think it's Nintendo turn to feel the pain now! 

An answer to the direct title: Yes it was extremely overhyped seeing how the game isn't good.



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