That's a ridiculous statement.   While there's no question of Wii's success, there's still a huge market for them (or someone else) to capture.   I work in an office full of single women and all of them at one point or another mused about getting a Wii.  None did.   While Wii did succeed, it also fell short of the target.   Wii Music/Animal Crossing where two of the biggest missed opportunities in the history of gaming.    If they had gotten them right (Wii Music more accessible, fun and AC more like Farmville) then they would have continued to be sold out all 2009.

There's a whole lot of blue ocean left to win.  I don't see Kinect as doing much, except selling to 360 owners, so the wife can play too.    The real expander of the industry at the moment is Apple with ipad/phone/pod games.

Problem with Wii is people got it to experience new games - that is, all new viseral experiences.  Wii Sports did that, so did Wii Fit,  Red Steel (although it was broken), Mario Kart Wii, Shaun White, Tiger Woods, Just Dance, etc.    Nintendo missed the mark with Wii Music then just seemed to run out of ideas and recycle - Wii Sports Resort, Wii Party (Mario Party) and old franchises.   If they continued to provide new viseral experiences they would have continued to win over new players.

The real failure of Move/Kinect is so far neither has produced anything really 'new' either.  Mostly just recycled Wii games.

The great thing about the 'core' market is they'll buy the same damn game every year with a slightly different story and slight improvements.  See Madden and Call of Duty.   Casuals will buy a new experience once.  Sequels very rarely surpass the original on Wii (has it ever happened?) but they do all the time on 'core' HD games.   Nintendo failed to produce 'new' experiences for too long on Wii.  But as soon as they do again, be it on Wii or Wii2, you can bet people will buy.

Why only list GT5 and Ratchet and Clank when there are others such as Uncharted 2,LBP, and Infamous which are have shown Sony's first party developers prowess. I would say that Sony's exclusives are greater than or equal to Nintendo's this gen. Granted, they may not have the selling power of Nintendo's, but Nintendo has had 20 years gathering a fanbase for their ips.(at least most of them). In terms of creating new ips, Sony has bested Nintendo this gen.

But that's not what you said

Also, the above listed are the only ones I have played. Sony isn't bad at first party, but Nintendo have the greater experience behind them I'm afraid

What do you mean that is not what I said? I just want to state my opinion on the quality of Sony's 1st party software which I believe has  at least equaled nintendo's and far exceeds nintendo in the creation of new ips.

I agree Nintendo hasn't had the best gen for new IPs (though hopefully TLS will go some way to fixing this!) but you said that overall Sony had better 1st party software. I'd agree that it's Nintendo>Sony>>>>>>>>>>>Microsoft, but, although Sony has certainly upped their game when it comes to first party support, Nintendo just have more awesome characters in a wider range of games, hence why they are better IMHO

That is your opinion and I respect it, but it seems to me, that Nintendo is the best at some genres, but the worst at others as opposed to sony which, imo, has become skilled at most genres ( still need to work on puzzle games lol). It all depends on your taste of games though, seeing as sony's games appear to target different audiences than the wii's.

Agreed, Sony are better at FPS and 3rd person adventures, but Nintendo (mostly) are better at the rest

I would have to say sony is better at racing also. Granted Mario Kart and Gran Turismo are completely different experiences and should be different genres, but Sony also has Modnation Racers which is better than MK in a lot of aspects, and worse than it in a lot of aspects.

You gotta be kidding me.

Uncharted, GT5, LBP. Modracerds whatever...good games? sure why not but all of them doesn't have a candle against nintendo.

Neither uncharted, nor ratchet and clank nor LBP nor Killzone nor GT5 nor Modracers have atracted new gamers nor pushed hardware. Those games just sell to Sony fans while NSMBWii, Mario Kart, Zelda and the Wii-XX line sell to everybody. Not for nothing those games keep selling while the others don't. Have you seen ordes of non-gamers, elapsed gamers and old gamers along with the core gamers rushing to the stores to buy LBP or modracers? HAH!

And no my dear is has nothing to do with brand power. Many games by Nintendo with their mascots have failed on sales and popularity. Is simply one thing:experience.

Nintendo has years of experience making games, using technology as a mean and not the end (wii sports, wii fit= while sony just pushes games to take advantage of technology. (GT5, Move)

Keep loving your Sony FP games but don't mix apples with watermelons. Keep it real.

I'd say racing is the one genre they're fairly even in, though they have differing strengths.  Sony's more diverse and comprehensive (GT, MNR, Motorstorm, WipEout, etc) while Nintendo's more experimental and tends to focus on purer arcadey design (Mario Kart, Excite series, lighttrax, etc).  I would also say this may have been Nintendo's weakest generation for racers though, with F-Zero, Wave Race and 1080 being no-shows.

In general, I'd say Sony wins out in FPS/TPS, survival horror, beat 'em ups and sandboxes, racing's pretty even, and Nintendo takes the rest (platformers, puzzlers, adventure, fighters, RPGs, strategy, shooters, etc).