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Nintendo should have continued to go down the road they were on when launching the Wii instead of leaving it midway. Nintendo killed the momentum of their console with Wii Music, a game that isn't really a game and more of a creative tool. What's the point of playing a music game, if the player himself rates his performance? The vast majority will see it as pointless, if everyone can get the best grade with ease. The best selling video games are all about challenge and Wii Music goes completely against this idea.

The Wii became as big as it was due to a chain of real killer applications. Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Mario Kart Wii and then the chain broke with Wii Music. 2008 should have had New Super Mario Bros. Wii as the big holiday title, because then the Wii would have continued to be sold out in America throughout 2009 with Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus and throw in DKCR to run no risk to lose any momentum going into 2010.

The only real chance Nintendo had to get serious third party support was to continuously destroy the HD consoles in the sales race and they messed it up. Moneyhatting isn't really an option, because even Microsoft's money could only get them so far.

They didn't really mes it up though did they? It outsold everyone's predictions, by a long way, but the fact is, the "killer apps" which you mentioned above were all that were really needed to keep the Wii's momentum. That is something the HD consoles don't have; a steady stream of killer 1st party games, which is why there's such a "cult" following for Nintendo games!

I disagree. Sony has shown how talented their 1st party developers are this gen. In fact I may be so bold to say that in terms of quality, they have at least matched Nintendo and maybe even exceeded them.

Woah woah woah, now I love GT5 and Ratchet and Clank as much as the next person, but you can't seriously be saying that these games are better than the 2 galaxies, DKCR etc.?

Why only list GT5 and Ratchet and Clank when there are others such as Uncharted 2,LBP, and Infamous which are have shown Sony's first party developers prowess. I would say that Sony's exclusives are greater than or equal to Nintendo's this gen. Granted, they may not have the selling power of Nintendo's, but Nintendo has had 20 years gathering a fanbase for their ips.(at least most of them). In terms of creating new ips, Sony has bested Nintendo this gen.


But that's not what you said

Also, the above listed are the only ones I have played. Sony isn't bad at first party, but Nintendo have the greater experience behind them I'm afraid

What do you mean that is not what I said? I just want to state my opinion on the quality of Sony's 1st party software which I believe has  at least equaled nintendo's and far exceeds nintendo in the creation of new ips.

I agree Nintendo hasn't had the best gen for new IPs (though hopefully TLS will go some way to fixing this!) but you said that overall Sony had better 1st party software. I'd agree that it's Nintendo>Sony>>>>>>>>>>>Microsoft, but, although Sony has certainly upped their game when it comes to first party support, Nintendo just have more awesome characters in a wider range of games, hence why they are better IMHO

That is your opinion and I respect it, but it seems to me, that Nintendo is the best at some genres, but the worst at others as opposed to sony which, imo, has become skilled at most genres ( still need to work on puzzle games lol). It all depends on your taste of games though, seeing as sony's games appear to target different audiences than the wii's.

Agreed, Sony are better at FPS and 3rd person adventures, but Nintendo (mostly) are better at the rest



 

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