Let's assume he meant that. The statement wasn't totally clear, so don't blame others for seeing another meaning when the statment leaves room for that.

Sounds like a fishy story but I will trust you. Who cares if they will not last as long as Nintendo characters. As long as they are well crafted, and they keep producing amazing ips, I will be set. The reason they probably do not last though, is because they actually have a plot. With Mario, you can just come up with a clever gimmick, slap on some good level design, and sell it. That is not the case with majority of games made by sony. Believe it or not, graphics do matter to a lot of gamers making it important. You may see some games graphics sufficient, but they would have been better, if they had better graphics.That is not to say you need realistic character models, seeing as Mario would not work with that realistic of character models. If you thought UC2 was just ok, I think it is safe to assume you do not like any 3rd person shooters. Also, if you claim you have never found something interesting in LBP it shows that you have never played it or you are the pickiest gamer I have ever met. Why are you so quick to forget games made by Nintendo such as Star Tropics, Tin-star, and Marvelous? Obviously, if they do not have  sequels every gen, they will eventually become obscure to the majority, but is that a bad thing?

 lol. Obviously, I could not prove Sony's games are better than Nintendo's, and vice versa. If anyone presented an opinion as a fact it would be Bobbuffalo who claimed "all of them doesn't have a candle against nintendo." In retrospective, it possibly was not wise for me to put the phrase "in fact" seeing as it has made someone think I was meaning something I was not. Also, who called me out for that?

1. I've learned that some phrases have to be very carefully stated, just for the sake of making sure you write it properly.

2. I think I meant bobbuffalo calling you out, but he might have made the same interpretation if your comment I made.

Anyway, as you were just stating an opinion, then okay.

Yeah, I may have been a bit too obstructive, but I thought we had agreed that both consoles had their strengths and weaknesses?

Also, WHO IS BUFFALO BOB!!

So yeah, this thread seems to have de-railed slightly. Save it all for my next thread please!

OT: Once again Nintendo gets a Million-plus week with the Wii, staying relatively flat with last week, whereas the other consoles dropped like a stone! (Stone is harsh. They all sold really well!) 

The media really need to check the pattern. Heck, even now the Wii has outsold the competitors this yearr from 2-3mil each, and no doubt this gap will extend to beyond 4 mil by years end!

Let me stop you right there, the PixelJunk are amazingly awesome, but they're also 100% 3rd party. Sony doesn't develop the games (Q-Games does) or own the IP (again, Q-Games does), they just publish the games outside Japan and have an exclusivity arrangement.  If by that standard PixelJunk is 1st party, then Dragon Quest IX is a 1st party Nintendo game. ;)

As for "shooters", I tend to make a distinction between fps/tps (which are really derived from action games) and more classic shmups (from which rail shooters and gun games are derived)... which is why I already gave the edge to Sony on fps/tps earlier.

As for other games, I'd say Flower is legitimately hard to classify (probably an action game), Fat Princess is a straight up RTS (so strategy) and Comet Crash is tower defense (also strategy).  None of them are really puzzle games.

I was not aware that the pixeljunk series was  3rd party. I waqs under the inpression it was developed by titan studios for some reason. As for puzzle, I can only think of echochrome.

Well, there's also Trash Panic... I'm not super familiar with PSN, but I'd guess there are more?

Kinda sad imo, as Sony used to be really, really great with puzzle games.  The Xai (ie: Devil Dice) and Intelligent Qube games are some of the best ever imo.  Hell, I even kinda loved Fantavision... Japan Studio should really be doing PSN sequels to all of these.

yeah?