If it were announced today that would make 2years before launch so there would be plenty to improve

With Kinect prolungating the 360 lifecycle 720 might be announced in 2012 for a 2014 launch... cough... pain... cough...

PS. Moore's law is still valid today, despite having slown down a bit due to silicium constraints, and my guess is that PCgaming graphically hasn't sky-rocketed due to lesser budgets and not technolog

Isnt that when the press gets it?  Thought the manufacturers got the data about a day earlier.

Exactly.  I hope to god we don't see another new console from either Sony or Microsoft for 2 years.  I spent ALOT of money on those bad boys plus all the games and I want to be able to spend time enjoying them.  Plus like you said PC graphics haven't vastly outperformed consoles yet at all.  Obviously the PC still has better graphics but its not like you lookat a PC game then look at something like Uncharted 2 and go "eww that looks awful I can't even play it".  

Not to mention I don't think the public will support new consoles at this point.  I think if a PS4 or Xbox 720 were to launch within the next 12 - 14 months it would be a catastrophic failure upon launch.  They would be hella expensive and theres still people going out and buying tons of 300 dollar systems right now.  THe public would feel burned.

Niiiice, they can have an NPD prediction thread without it falling apart with crappy "Yeh but NPD /= world" posts.

2013 at the earliest is what I've been preaching for the last couple of years.  

It makes more sense now with Kinect being an early success for MS to give it at least 3 holidays free and clear before introducing/announcing the next generation of Xbox Kinect.  The Wii has been doing ridiculous numbers with outdated system specs and I'm sure MS could milk the 360 for even longer if they wanted with Kinect's introduction.  Plus, from a thread someone made up here, the 360 has been bringing in profits but the entire Xbox initiative has not.  Early losses were THAT big with the first Xbox.

Sony needs to make more money from the PS3 project before moving on to the PS4 and, based on quarterly earnings, it still hasn't made them any profit yet after wiping out all profits from previous gens.  That should change soon, though, possibly with the next statement, but a long, long way before returning the Playstation to a profitable project (probably never).

Nintendo ... don't really have a huge reason to upgrade, but I think they will come 2012 at the earliest.  I don't see it next year, especially after the holiday the Wii is turning out.  Profits are not even a factor, as they are doing more than fine.

So Gaf have it down for 4pm in their November NPD prediction thread.

NPD always find ways to surprise us. Can't wait.

You guys never cease to amaze me. The data comes out 4 PM every month but its never public until 6:30 PM. Don't be dissapointed when you have no information tommorow at 4 PM ET

And that is because of developing expenses. Tech wise PC is just as far ahead as it was last gen during same timeframe. Though I agree that we don't need new hw for couple of years. Developers are already struggling with developing costs of this gen consoles.

Why doesn't Twitter ban Aaron Greenburg?

He's more annoying than anonymous.