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I still don't see a SMG2 on the 360 or PS3, not that NY Times is a good place to read about gaming to start with. I don't think gamers will enjoy the shovelware plague that's to come to the HD consoles.



Euphoria14 said:

They are correct about what SONY can possibly do with their MLB The Show series if they use the Move correctly. It would allow you to actually golf swing a low inside pitch and with enough speed launch it to the fences.

It is the game I am looking forward to most right now. The calibration screen is caused me to think of the possibilities. With it the eye will realize where you waistline is, making it even more deadly accurate when swinging high or low.

I don't think the Move gets enough credit.

It'll be awfully hard to replicate a baseball game with motion. Batting is the most difficult skill in any sport, and most gamers will not have the arm to throw consistently and with great velocity. If you're looking for a baseball simulation I think you'll be severely disappointed.



pacman91 said:
Euphoria14 said:

They are correct about what SONY can possibly do with their MLB The Show series if they use the Move correctly. It would allow you to actually golf swing a low inside pitch and with enough speed launch it to the fences.

It is the game I am looking forward to most right now. The calibration screen is caused me to think of the possibilities. With it the eye will realize where you waistline is, making it even more deadly accurate when swinging high or low.

I don't think the Move gets enough credit.

It'll be awfully hard to replicate a baseball game with motion. Batting is the most difficult skill in any sport, and most gamers will not have the arm to throw consistently and with great velocity. If you're looking for a baseball simulation I think you'll be severely disappointed.

I still believe the Move will give us the closest representation to an actual swing of the bat thanks to the use of not only the controller but the camera as well?

If you ever play Sports Champions and see the calibration screen and just mess around with moving stuff like the Table Tennis paddle or a Frisbee you will realize what I mean.

Ever played The Show? Batting is hard enough to the point where most people don't have fun. It is incredibly difficult. They will undoubtedly do the best they can with the Move. The Show is a Baseball simulator, not just a Baseball game.



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The generation is almost over, it is too late for the Wii to be doomed.



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Hmmm... First it was "Nintendo is doomed because they are using motion controls!" And now it's "Nintendo is doomed because their competitors have motion control games in HD!"



Euphoria14 said:
pacman91 said:
Euphoria14 said:

They are correct about what SONY can possibly do with their MLB The Show series if they use the Move correctly. It would allow you to actually golf swing a low inside pitch and with enough speed launch it to the fences.

It is the game I am looking forward to most right now. The calibration screen is caused me to think of the possibilities. With it the eye will realize where you waistline is, making it even more deadly accurate when swinging high or low.

I don't think the Move gets enough credit.

It'll be awfully hard to replicate a baseball game with motion. Batting is the most difficult skill in any sport, and most gamers will not have the arm to throw consistently and with great velocity. If you're looking for a baseball simulation I think you'll be severely disappointed.

I still believe the Move will give us the closest representation to an actual swing of the bat thanks to the use of not only the controller but the camera as well?

If you ever play Sports Champions and see the calibration screen and just mess around with moving stuff like the Table Tennis paddle or a Frisbee you will realize what I mean.

Ever played The Show? Batting is hard enough to the point where most people don't have fun. It is incredibly difficult. They will undoubtedly do the best they can with the Move. The Show is a Baseball simulator, not just a Baseball game.

Haven't played Sports Champions. Throwing a frisbee I assume would be the same as in Wii sports resort or Tiger 2010/11.  What differentiates it?

I have played The show a bit. It is definitely a baseball simulation with a controller. No doubt. But would that fact carry over to a motion simulation? I would be infinitely impressed.  Detecting the sweet spot of a bat, hip detection, hitting a TRUE fastball or breaking ball, true physics of hitting the ball in conjunction with the motion swing. Then there's pitching...that would be brutal. 90% of gamers wouldn't be a able to pitch adequately. Would I love to see it come together? Definitely. I just remain skeptical. And perhaps as a baseball fan, and N64 baseball enthusiast my expectations of a true simulator are too high. 

Everyone can bowl and throw a frisbee. Baseball is an elite skill game.

On the bright side though any Move usage will be an additional option. They can tweak it over the next few years.



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The Wii probably has the greatest commodity this gen.

Nintendo titles.

Talk to me when Wii Fit 3/Mario Kart Wii 2/NSMBW2 is on PS3 and 360.

Your Shape, Mod Nation Racers, and LBP2 show that they're at least trying :P



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pacman91 said:
Euphoria14 said:
pacman91 said:
Euphoria14 said:

They are correct about what SONY can possibly do with their MLB The Show series if they use the Move correctly. It would allow you to actually golf swing a low inside pitch and with enough speed launch it to the fences.

It is the game I am looking forward to most right now. The calibration screen is caused me to think of the possibilities. With it the eye will realize where you waistline is, making it even more deadly accurate when swinging high or low.

I don't think the Move gets enough credit.

It'll be awfully hard to replicate a baseball game with motion. Batting is the most difficult skill in any sport, and most gamers will not have the arm to throw consistently and with great velocity. If you're looking for a baseball simulation I think you'll be severely disappointed.

I still believe the Move will give us the closest representation to an actual swing of the bat thanks to the use of not only the controller but the camera as well?

If you ever play Sports Champions and see the calibration screen and just mess around with moving stuff like the Table Tennis paddle or a Frisbee you will realize what I mean.

Ever played The Show? Batting is hard enough to the point where most people don't have fun. It is incredibly difficult. They will undoubtedly do the best they can with the Move. The Show is a Baseball simulator, not just a Baseball game.

Haven't played Sports Champions. Throwing a frisbee I assume would be the same as in Wii sports resort or Tiger 2010/11.  What differentiates it?

I have played The show a bit. It is definitely a baseball simulation with a controller. No doubt. But would that fact carry over to a motion simulation? I would be infinitely impressed.  Detecting the sweet spot of a bat, hip detection, hitting a TRUE fastball or breaking ball, true physics of hitting the ball in conjunction with the motion swing. Then there's pitching...that would be brutal. 90% of gamers wouldn't be a able to pitch adequately. Would I love to see it come together? Definitely. I just remain skeptical. And perhaps as a baseball fan, and N64 baseball enthusiast my expectations of a true simulator are too high. 

Everyone can bowl and throw a frisbee. Baseball is an elite skill game.

On the bright side though any Move usage will be an additional option. They can tweak it over the next few years.

Well I am not sure about hip detection, but sweet spot could just be a few inches or so above where the PSEye detects the lighted ball. I am sure that could work. As for comparisons with WiiMotion Plus, I seriously believe that so many neglect the fact that the Move also makes use of the camera. That alone, through calibration, allow it to realize how tall you are, where your shoulder, waist and knees are. It could definitely allow the PSEye and Move to determine how high or low you swing and also how far you reach out or if you short swing on an inside pitch that might jam you up and in, or as mentioned before, down and inside.

It could work, but to be even better it would require a Kinect like camera along with the Move controller.

 

This is why I think the WMPlus/Move comparison is wrong in so many ways. It has many options if you take the time to actually use one and realize what options the camera really opens up for you. Plus with a dev team like the one in The Show, I am sure they will do it right, as they have done for years now. They don't mess around.



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