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atma998 on 28 November 2010
CGI-Quality said:
atma998 said:
psrock said:
atma998 said:
Jay520 said:
atma998 said:

Launch sales are as I expected. The game should end around 6-7 mil LTD. But of course it will takes more than a year before people predicting 10M sales may admit the true potential of this game.

It's only going to outsell GT5P by 1-2  mil?

I'm thinking 8.5-9.5mil.

The game is gonna sale 3mil in 2011.

Well, we'll see. But judging by launch numbers and by reviews, I think my prediction is more reasonable, unless of course, the game is bundled.

I think it's going to be a long shot to 10 million as no other PS3 games has done it yet, but it will sell beyond 8 million easily. The thing about these games, they never stop selling, gt5p was still sellling up to this point.

GT5P sold around 6k last week, which represents around 300k/year.

No game ever reached the 10 million mark on PS3, not even a Call of Duty game nor GTAIV, two far more popular franchises that had bigger launch sales.

Uh Prologue sold 17,000 last week and has seen 20K (plus) weeks for a while now. And just because no game has reached 10 million on PS3 doesn't mean GT5 won't.

Let's also remember this 1.8 mill is two days worth of data, not a full week. The full week should put it @ 2.4-2.5 mill and it should hit 4 million by year's end, putting it clear on track to outsell that 6-7mill lifetime prediction.

Unless the legs are horrible (unlikely, reviews mean zilch for a franchise like Gran Turismo), it will clear at least 8-9 mill, but 10 is doable.



Where did you see your 17,000 unit sold last week? Because the charts is listing GT5:P at 5,894 unit sold for last week.

Even if first week is around 2.4-2.5 mil like you said, are you aware that GTAIV had a 2.55 mil first week and is only at 6.91M? Knowing that GTA franchise is > than GT how can you see GT5 selling 10 million?

Let's say the game's hit 4 million at the end of the year.

It sells another 2 million in 2011 (average of 40k/week for the whole year).

 And let's say another 0.75M in 2012 and 0.4M in 2013, which is reasonable.

It only makes 7.15M and these numbers were optimistic.



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Capulous on 28 November 2010
psrock said:
atma998 said:
Jay520 said:
atma998 said:

Launch sales are as I expected. The game should end around 6-7 mil LTD. But of course it will takes more than a year before people predicting 10M sales may admit the true potential of this game.

It's only going to outsell GT5P by 1-2  mil?

I'm thinking 8.5-9.5mil.

The game is gonna sale 3mil in 2011.

Well, we'll see. But judging by launch numbers and by reviews, I think my prediction is more reasonable, unless of course, the game is bundled.

I think it's going to be a long shot to 10 million as no other PS3 games has done it yet, but it will sell beyond 8 million easily. The thing about these games, they never stop selling, gt5p was still sellling up to this point.

I didn't realize no PS3 games have hit the 10 mil mark. It does seem unlikely that GT5 will reach that mark either. Depending on how long this gen last, it may not hit that mark. Then again it wouldn't surprise me if it does.



Ping_ii on 28 November 2010
CGI-Quality said:
Ping_ii said:
CGI-Quality said:
Ping_ii said:

Reviews dont affect BIG franchise like GT,COD,Halo.

GT5P is sitting on 80/100 yet managed to do 5m, COD BO is sitting on 88/10 compared to MW2 which is 94/100 yet COD BO sold MORE than MW2.

Glad you pointed CoD/Halo out. Hell, take Mario Kart - Double Dash (87), MK Wii (82). With franchises like these, reviews mean zilch.


Yeh Halo reach has lower score than Halo 3 yet it opened better.

Indeed, although it's lifetime may/may not top it. In GT5's case, it's the first full GT on PS3. It should perform as strong as it can, given Yamauchi doesn't even know if GT6 will hit this gen. GTA IV is the highest rated in it's series (not to mention the second highest rated gme of all time), yet between both the PS3 & 360, has yet to clear the 18 mill of San Andreas on PS2.

If the game hits it's intended audience, reviews will mean nothing.

ture that, GTA4 should have blown past GTASA sales if SCORES is the basis of its sales.



Jay520 on 28 November 2010
atma998 said:


Where did you see your 17,000 unit sold last week? Because the charts is listing GT5:P at 5,894 unit sold for last week.

Even if first week is around 2.4-2.5 mil like you said, are you aware that GTAIV had a 2.55 mil first week and is only at 6.91M? Knowing that GTA franchise is > than GT how can you see GT5 selling 10 million?

Let's say the game's hit 4 million at the end of the year.

It sells another 2 million in 2011 (average of 40k/week for the whole year).

 And let's say another 0.75M in 2012 and 0.4M in 2013, which is reasonable.

It only makes 7.15M and these numbers were optimistic.


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atma998 on 28 November 2010
CGI-Quality said:
atma998 said:
CGI-Quality said:
atma998 said:
psrock said:
atma998 said:
Jay520 said:
atma998 said:

Launch sales are as I expected. The game should end around 6-7 mil LTD. But of course it will takes more than a year before people predicting 10M sales may admit the true potential of this game.

It's only going to outsell GT5P by 1-2  mil?

I'm thinking 8.5-9.5mil.

The game is gonna sale 3mil in 2011.

Well, we'll see. But judging by launch numbers and by reviews, I think my prediction is more reasonable, unless of course, the game is bundled.

I think it's going to be a long shot to 10 million as no other PS3 games has done it yet, but it will sell beyond 8 million easily. The thing about these games, they never stop selling, gt5p was still sellling up to this point.

GT5P sold around 6k last week, which represents around 300k/year.

No game ever reached the 10 million mark on PS3, not even a Call of Duty game nor GTAIV, two far more popular franchises that had bigger launch sales.

Uh Prologue sold 17,000 last week and has seen 20K (plus) weeks for a while now. And just because no game has reached 10 million on PS3 doesn't mean GT5 won't.

Let's also remember this 1.8 mill is two days worth of data, not a full week. The full week should put it @ 2.4-2.5 mill and it should hit 4 million by year's end, putting it clear on track to outsell that 6-7mill lifetime prediction.

Unless the legs are horrible (unlikely, reviews mean zilch for a franchise like Gran Turismo), it will clear at least 8-9 mill, but 10 is doable.



Where did you see your 17,000 unit sold last week? Because the charts is listing GT5:P at 5,894 unit sold for last week.

Even if first week is around 2.4-2.5 mil like you said, are you aware that GTAIV had a 2.55 mil first week and is only at 6.91M? Knowing that GTA franchise is > than GT how can you see GT5 selling 10 million?

Let's say the game's hit 4 million at the end of the year.

It sells another 2 million in 2011 (average of 40k/week for the whole year).

 And let's say another 0.75M in 2012 and 0.4M in 2013, which is reasonable.

It only makes 7.15M and these numbers were optimistic.

Read the edit: I posted a link there. WW, it sold 17,000.

GTA IV also is the highest rated game in it's series and the second highest rated game of all time. If reviews are an indication, why isn't it sitting higher? Easy answer: it disappointed the main target: gamers. Therefore, it sells less (not to mention, if it were PS3 exclusive, it obviously would have sold FAR higher).

If you think you're numbers are optimistic, keep to that. But selling just 2 million next year will likely prove too low. Let's see it's legs through Dec.


Ok but at least you can admit that my numbers arent unresonnable.

Also it would be interesting to see your break down of sales among years 2010-2011-2012-2013 to reach 10M like I did.



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FaRmLaNd on 28 November 2010


atma998 on 28 November 2010
Jay520 said:
atma998 said:


Where did you see your 17,000 unit sold last week? Because the charts is listing GT5:P at 5,894 unit sold for last week.

Even if first week is around 2.4-2.5 mil like you said, are you aware that GTAIV had a 2.55 mil first week and is only at 6.91M? Knowing that GTA franchise is > than GT how can you see GT5 selling 10 million?

Let's say the game's hit 4 million at the end of the year.

It sells another 2 million in 2011 (average of 40k/week for the whole year).

 And let's say another 0.75M in 2012 and 0.4M in 2013, which is reasonable.

It only makes 7.15M and these numbers were optimistic.


GT5P does 2.6mil in its second year, yet you expect GT5 to do 2mil in it's second year. no, it should do around 3mil.

I'm still baffled at how you think GT5 will only outsell GT5P by 2mil.

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (PS3 best selling game) sold 2.66M in its second year. There is no way GT5 will sell more than that knowing that Shooters > Racing Sim games and that CoD franchise has become far more popular than GT franchise.



atma998 on 28 November 2010
CGI-Quality said:
atma998 said:
CGI-Quality said:
atma998 said:
CGI-Quality said:
atma998 said:
psrock said:
atma998 said:
Jay520 said:
atma998 said:

Launch sales are as I expected. The game should end around 6-7 mil LTD. But of course it will takes more than a year before people predicting 10M sales may admit the true potential of this game.

It's only going to outsell GT5P by 1-2  mil?

I'm thinking 8.5-9.5mil.

The game is gonna sale 3mil in 2011.

Well, we'll see. But judging by launch numbers and by reviews, I think my prediction is more reasonable, unless of course, the game is bundled.

I think it's going to be a long shot to 10 million as no other PS3 games has done it yet, but it will sell beyond 8 million easily. The thing about these games, they never stop selling, gt5p was still sellling up to this point.

GT5P sold around 6k last week, which represents around 300k/year.

No game ever reached the 10 million mark on PS3, not even a Call of Duty game nor GTAIV, two far more popular franchises that had bigger launch sales.

Uh Prologue sold 17,000 last week and has seen 20K (plus) weeks for a while now. And just because no game has reached 10 million on PS3 doesn't mean GT5 won't.

Let's also remember this 1.8 mill is two days worth of data, not a full week. The full week should put it @ 2.4-2.5 mill and it should hit 4 million by year's end, putting it clear on track to outsell that 6-7mill lifetime prediction.

Unless the legs are horrible (unlikely, reviews mean zilch for a franchise like Gran Turismo), it will clear at least 8-9 mill, but 10 is doable.



Where did you see your 17,000 unit sold last week? Because the charts is listing GT5:P at 5,894 unit sold for last week.

Even if first week is around 2.4-2.5 mil like you said, are you aware that GTAIV had a 2.55 mil first week and is only at 6.91M? Knowing that GTA franchise is > than GT how can you see GT5 selling 10 million?

Let's say the game's hit 4 million at the end of the year.

It sells another 2 million in 2011 (average of 40k/week for the whole year).

 And let's say another 0.75M in 2012 and 0.4M in 2013, which is reasonable.

It only makes 7.15M and these numbers were optimistic.

Read the edit: I posted a link there. WW, it sold 17,000.

GTA IV also is the highest rated game in it's series and the second highest rated game of all time. If reviews are an indication, why isn't it sitting higher? Easy answer: it disappointed the main target: gamers. Therefore, it sells less (not to mention, if it were PS3 exclusive, it obviously would have sold FAR higher).

If you think you're numbers are optimistic, keep to that. But selling just 2 million next year will likely prove too low. Let's see it's legs through Dec.


Ok but at least you can admit that my numbers arent unresonnable.

Also it would be interesting to see your break down of sales among years 2010-2011-2012-2013 to reach 10M like I did.

No problem.

2010 - 4 mill

2011 - 7 mill

2012 - 9 mill

2013 (lifetime): 10 mill.


lol

ok so the game will sell as much in 2012 than in 2011? How come? And it will sell more in its second and 3rd year than CoD:MW2? Come on... this isnt serious.



Jay520 on 28 November 2010
CGI-Quality said:
atma998 said:

Ok but at least you can admit that my numbers arent unresonnable.

Also it would be interesting to see your break down of sales among years 2010-2011-2012-2013 to reach 10M like I did.

No problem.

2010 - 4 mill

2011 - 7 mill

2012 - 9 mill

2013 (lifetime): 10 mill.

My estimates are basically the same but slightly more frontloaded. I think we'll see 4.5mil by year's end.
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Jay520 on 28 November 2010
atma998 said:
Jay520 said:
atma998 said:


Where did you see your 17,000 unit sold last week? Because the charts is listing GT5:P at 5,894 unit sold for last week.

Even if first week is around 2.4-2.5 mil like you said, are you aware that GTAIV had a 2.55 mil first week and is only at 6.91M? Knowing that GTA franchise is > than GT how can you see GT5 selling 10 million?

Let's say the game's hit 4 million at the end of the year.

It sells another 2 million in 2011 (average of 40k/week for the whole year).

 And let's say another 0.75M in 2012 and 0.4M in 2013, which is reasonable.

It only makes 7.15M and these numbers were optimistic.


GT5P does 2.6mil in its second year, yet you expect GT5 to do 2mil in it's second year. no, it should do around 3mil.

I'm still baffled at how you think GT5 will only outsell GT5P by 2mil.

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (PS3 best selling game) sold 2.66M in its second year. There is no way GT5 will sell more than that knowing that Shooters > Racing Sim games and that CoD franchise has become far more popular than GT franchise.

EDIT