MS Aaron Greenberg 360 best selling console in US & Europe 4 months solid

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CrazyHorse on 25 November 2010

Hyruken said:

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Hyruken said:

Got to love it here. Sony say they sold xyz = no question it is true! MS say they sold xyz = Lying bastards! :)

To be fair, the Sony claim was backed up with shipped numbers where as no numbers are reported here. Furthermore, we know the PS3 has been outselling the 360 in Europe since the Move launch from Nintendo's tracking firm as mentioned by Acevil on the first page. However, Greenberg may be talking US and EU combined in which case he may well be right but this forum isn't quite as hypocritical as you suggest.

I'm just kidding :)

Fair enough :)

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TRios_Zen on 25 November 2010

CrazyHorse said:

Hyruken said:

CrazyHorse said:

Hyruken said:

Got to love it here. Sony say they sold xyz = no question it is true! MS say they sold xyz = Lying bastards! :)

To be fair, the Sony claim was backed up with shipped numbers where as no numbers are reported here. Furthermore, we know the PS3 has been outselling the 360 in Europe since the Move launch from Nintendo's tracking firm as mentioned by Acevil on the first page. However, Greenberg may be talking US and EU combined in which case he may well be right but this forum isn't quite as hypocritical as you suggest.

I'm just kidding :)

Fair enough :)

When did Nintendo's tracking system become the gold standard for Europe, and why MUST we accept thier numbers over Microsofts again? I must have missed the validity testing that was done there...

Actually, I don't care who is correct here as my argument with this line of thinking is the reasoning, not the outcome. I mean honestly, what proof do you have that Nintendo's numbers are absolutely more accurate than Microsofts?

NOW if you have hard evidence (not circumstantial), then by all means, I'll concede the point.

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snakenobi on 25 November 2010

A203D said:

This must have been before adjustments.

VGC has adjustments not MS

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A203D on 25 November 2010

RAZurrection said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CIM81vh0ZM

Mentions it 13:00 minutes in

This was from Kinects US launch (4th November 2010) so he is most likely referring to July-October

**Edit** Major Nelson comments

But i thought that the Wii and PS3 were still outselling it at that point. this means Greenburg probabily didnt know about the adjustments that probabily affected sales number in that period of the year.

interesting, well clearly this man is acting under misinformation, or he is delusional, or probabily both. but he did Tweet, lol at vgchartz numbers recently. so it seems like the recent adjustments could have upset him.

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Squilliam on 25 November 2010

Console	Wii	PS3	X360
UK	177,145	224,250	464,320
France	140,114	201,645	187,966
Germany	129,314	175,813	154,163
Spain	107,686	155,270	64,782
Italy	157,713	205,270	116,058
Scandinavia	47,315	66,198	92,547

Total Xbox 360: 1,079,836

Total PS3: 962,248

Total Wii: 759,287

I guess that Vgchartz agrees.

The dates I used were VGChartz Hardware data for the period 27th Jun 2010 to 30th Oct 2010. I assumed they were talking about Europe as EU countries in the original EU and that they were talking about completed months with the last month, November being incomplete.

Tease.

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John_Doe on 25 November 2010

Its not nintendo trackin method, its nintendo numbers coming from npd, charttrack, etc

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CrazyHorse on 25 November 2010

TRios_Zen said:

When did Nintendo's tracking system become the gold standard for Europe, and why MUST we accept thier numbers over Microsofts again? I must have missed the validity testing that was done there...

Actually, I don't care who is correct here as my argument with this line of thinking is the reasoning, not the outcome. I mean honestly, what proof do you have that Nintendo's numbers are absolutely more accurate than Microsofts?

NOW if you have hard evidence (not circumstantial), then by all means, I'll concede the point.

You can accept which ever numbers you like (although Greenberg isn't providing any here, just a blanket statement which could be referring to a number of different combinations). I was simply responding to the idea that on here, people are hypocritical when referring to MS's and Sony's announcements when we have numerous sources supporting Sony and very little supporting MS in this case (with Nintendo's tracking system casting doubt on the MS claim).