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Yakuzaice on 20 November 2010
Killiana1a said:

I may be mistaken, but weren't both Gran Turismo and Gran Turismo 3 practically launch games for the PS1 and PS2 meaning you could not purchase a PS1 or PS2 without having to buy the game with it? If so, then that explains their numbers.

As for Gran Turismo 5, I am lowballing it a tad with my predictions at 425k first week and 4 million lifetime to the chagrin of CGI-Quality and others on another thread who use Prologues sales, point out the VGCHartz preorder charts are for the Americas only, and fervently believe Gran Turismo 5 will be just as big if not bigger than the last Gran Turismo game.

I just don't think Gran Turismo 5 will have the 2 to 3 years to be adequately bundled to pass the 10 million mark. I think Nintendo is going to crash that party sometime in late 2012. Just a hunch.

The Playstation was 3 years old in Japan and about 2.5 in the rest of the world when GT came out.  The PS2 was a year old when GT3 came out in Japan, and 7-8 months old elsewhere.

I still can't fathom that you truly believe your first week prediction when you know the 260k is just for the Americas and still had a couple weeks before the release.  Even if nobody else preordered after November 13th, and the only people who buy it are the ones who preordered, that only leaves 165k for the rest of the world.  It just isn't rational.  I mean what do you expect the breakdown to be?  260k Americas/65k Japan/100k EMEAA?  Can you honestly look at that and say "looks about right"?



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ChrisIsNotSexy on 20 November 2010
kowenicki said:
Kratos_36 said:

Well sales raised 1300 % on amazon after the release date announcement. The game is huge here in Europe , and even bigger in Japan. So it will do fine. :)



no its not.

I wonder how he got to that conclusion



Chairman-Mao on 20 November 2010
Ajescent said:

America=/=the world.


b...b..but...its teh m0st pow3rfu1 country!!!1!



Linkasf on 20 November 2010
Killiana1a said:
Linkasf said:

Well if it were on the xbox it would get a huge marketing push from Microsoft. I wonder if Sony will push it in the Americas.

Microsoft has a short-term, quarterly focus, while Sony is betting on the long-term by catering to emerging countries such as Brazil, India and the like.

Just imagine the attach rate for Gran Turismo 5 in Brazil or India if Sony pushed it hard enough. Gran Turismo 5 would blow Black Ops first day and first week sales out of the water.


True true. Lets see what happens... Not many people here know about Gt for some reason.



huaxiong90 on 20 November 2010
Linkasf said:
Killiana1a said:
Linkasf said:

Well if it were on the xbox it would get a huge marketing push from Microsoft. I wonder if Sony will push it in the Americas.

Microsoft has a short-term, quarterly focus, while Sony is betting on the long-term by catering to emerging countries such as Brazil, India and the like.

Just imagine the attach rate for Gran Turismo 5 in Brazil or India if Sony pushed it hard enough. Gran Turismo 5 would blow Black Ops first day and first week sales out of the water.


True true. Lets see what happens... Not many people here know about Gt for some reason.

GT's pretty popular in the Middle East...=S Or at least, where I live.



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Blue3 on 20 November 2010
kowenicki said:

in trouble? no

sell as well as the previous iterations? probably not


True, cause it will sale better.



FireBringer on 20 November 2010
Killiana1a said:

I may be mistaken, but weren't both Gran Turismo and Gran Turismo 3 practically launch games for the PS1 and PS2 meaning you could not purchase a PS1 or PS2 without having to buy the game with it? If so, then that explains their numbers.

As for Gran Turismo 5, I am lowballing it a tad with my predictions at 425k first week and 4 million lifetime to the chagrin of CGI-Quality and others on another thread who use Prologues sales, point out the VGCHartz preorder charts are for the Americas only, and fervently believe Gran Turismo 5 will be just as big if not bigger than the last Gran Turismo game.

I just don't think Gran Turismo 5 will have the 2 to 3 years to be adequately bundled to pass the 10 million mark. I think Nintendo is going to crash that party sometime in late 2012. Just a hunch.

You're delusional, 4 million life-time. You think a full GT game will sell LESS than GT5:P did? Hahaha...

I can tell you are a 360'er, stick to your Kinect and Halo posts please. You're clueless as piss. GT5 will clear 2-3 million units week one, and pass your 4 million mark in a month. Need to fix your brain processing, cause European pre-ordering is insanely high. Not the US, but the US still will drive 500,000 units on day one. Plus with the Black Friday boost, and their marketing starting in the next day. With all that considered, 4 million units seems like wishful thinking from a GT hater and that's all. It's like I said Halo Reach is going to sell 4 million copies life-time, just cause I hate Halo. Be realistic and stop sleeping all through life kiddo.

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Sensei on 20 November 2010

How can people be predicting 4M LT sales if even GT5 PROLOGUE sold that amount?

GT5 will sell way over 4M copies.



Blue3 on 20 November 2010
Sensei said:

How can people be predicting 4M LT sales if even GT5 PROLOGUE sold that amount?

GT5 will sell way over 4M copies.


hard liquor and some pills is one legit explenation, ohh look a flying train.



Mummelmann on 20 November 2010
kowenicki said:
Kratos_36 said:

Well sales raised 1300 % on amazon after the release date announcement. The game is huge here in Europe , and even bigger in Japan. So it will do fine. :)



no its not.


Japan;

Population: 127 million

GT sales:

GT: 2.55

GT2: 1.71

GT3: 1.89

GT4: 1.26

GT5P: 0.57

 

Europe;

Population: 731 million

GT sales:

GT: 4.31

GT2: 3.70

GT3: 5.83

GT4: 6.49

GT5P: 2.20

 

GT is clearly bigger in Japan. Yes, Europe has quite a few poor countries but that is simply a factor towards GT sales not being higher, yet again showing that GT is bigger in Japan.

GT moves more in Europe, as is natural since the population is a whole lot bigger but per inhabitant, GT is bigger in Japan so his statement is not false.