yeh :/ 

do you really think there has been that much of a change hardware since Move launched? 

i mean, wasnt it really just the pre- christmas increase. sales always seem to change a bit about 2 months before. 

can you remember off the top of your head the HW change from week before move and the week after?

i know your good with these things CGi

At least 1 million.

With GT5 coming right before Black Friday, it will be over 1 million. People will be convinced to buy a PS3 because of GT5 and great savings/combos on that day. This will be HUGE boost from last year in Europe, but only moderate in the States. I don't know how huge GT5 will be in the States, as it's normally only like 30-40% of the market share (North America). But with EMEAA, it will be well over 1 million! NA push of hardware will be because of Black Friday mostly, and EMEAA will be because of GT5.. Will be interesting to see what is more hyped up to the players and fans..

Depends how many of those Blue PS3 bundles are available in Japan, and what Bundles the game gets in Europe.

Although as a rough guess...

900-1050k WW

Hopefully we can see some Black Friday specials with PS3 on Black Friday

Well, I did this rather large chart comparing years all the way to launch and the 5 weeks prior to/including Thanksgiving/Black Friday week.  Obviously the data for this year so far is rather restricted because we only have 2 weeks (Americas not included) of those 5.  But, what I'm seeing at the current moment versus last year is Others will be up about 5.5% NOT including GT5 push.  This equates to 262,411 sales.  Looking at the graph, Japan seems to be an extremely volatile market this time of year.  Without factoring in GT5, I think they'll see sales of about 35,000.  As for the Americas, based on week 1, and estimating a little further, we'll probably be about the same as last year not factoring in GT5, which would equate to 486,033.  Now I need to mention, Black Friday last year was like 150% increase from the year before that.  Not even worrying about GT5, we'll probably see sales of ~785,000.

Now, the great question is how many units can GT5 push, especially in a week where a lot of people are already pushed to buy a console (on one hand, you might be taking away some that would be considered for GT5 push, but on other hand, you may have some people that the combination of GT5 and black friday will result in them getting one, so overall, I think the push will be the same).  So can GT5 push 215,000 units worldwide?  As popular as it is in Europe, you may see 400,000-450,000 sales in Europe alone, so that only means you need 90000-140,000 more.  I think if the advertising pumps up, you'll see Americas sales being pushed by ~60,000-90,000 sales.  I'm not sure how popular this game is in Japan, but possibly 10,000-20,000 sales increase?  Total sales increase from GT5 I'm estimating is 160,000-250,000.

My overall prediction: Exactly 1,000,001 units.

Yeah and here's why :

- PS3 had around 500k in NA on Black Friday week. Add in GT5 and Move and you could be looking at around 600 - 650k in NA.

- The GT5 bundles are sold out in Japan. So I'll say they are going to ship a minimum of 50k to a maximum of 100k. So that would be 75k - 125k in Japan.

- EMEAA is both GT and PS3's best region. I'm expecting around 400k with GT5 having a 2 Million opening in it's first week  ...

its guaranteed doesnt even need JPs release idk when gt5 releases in JP though is the same time?

it will also do 1M a week more than once this year

even without GT5, the ps3 should be near 900K at the least

the black friday deals this year eclispse last year's and I speak for every console

X360 4gb with $50 gift cards- $149.99

Wii bundles- $169.99

PS3 160gb 2 PS3 game plus blu ray movie bundles- $299.99

and now GT5 adds into the PS3 equation, if sony advertise it like I mentioned in another thread, they might easily surpass 1 million consoles sold for the week

I think GT5 will sell well, and it will give the PS3 a boost. But I think two factors will keep it from being a huge boost. First I think the majority of GT fans already have PS3s. They bought it when GT5p came out. Secondly, I don't think casual gamers are as into racing sims as they were ten years ago. Because of this I don't believe GT5 will boost sales much more than other popular exclusives and it definitly won't have the same effect as the price cut and redesign had on sales.