http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/5188310
basically the rumor is true except for the 6 hour mission which was a communication error.
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http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/5188310
basically the rumor is true except for the 6 hour mission which was a communication error.
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lestatdark said:
I've been following the series for the past 3 years, both games on my 360, and why should I feel like I was stabbed in the back? True, they could add the 6 hours of new gameplay via DLC to the 360 version, but they need a selling point for old ME fans and not just new crowd. |
I'm missing the part where I'm supposed to be happy that they're trying to make people rebuy this game, or in my case, a console and the game I've already bought just to access stuff that people who've already bought the game once should access.
I should've figured this kind of shenanigans ever since EA bought BioWare though. At least we still have Lionhead, which at least guarantees us to see the whole freaking game instead of exclusive DLC nonsense.
chocoloco said:
I was being a little dramatic, but I mostly remain bitter that I was told it was an exclusive and it was not. In the end, I am happier to play it early and on the 360 because I could transfer my data from ME to 2 and I know I understand ME world a million times more due to playing the first one. I agree the game was long enough as it was, but I am tired of microsofts lies. |
It's not Microsofts fault though bro. It's EA's. Microsoft are to blame only for being dumbasses and not purchasing Bioware. EA bought them and everyone know EA love Sony. From the second of that purchase we all predicted the outcome. Secondly....don't hold to hope for anymore 3rd party PC/360 exclusives from Valve either. Left4Dead is most likely going to go to the PS3 as well Thanks to Valves newfound love for the PS3.
themanwithnoname said:
I'm missing the part where I'm supposed to be happy that they're trying to make people rebuy this game, or in my case, a console and the game I've already bought just to access stuff that people who've already bought the game once should access. I should've figured this kind of shenanigans ever since EA bought BioWare though. At least we still have Lionhead, which at least guarantees us to see the whole freaking game instead of exclusive DLC nonsense. |
Microsoft owns Lionhead. Lionhead and Biowares fate in no way intertwine. Microsofts top exclusives are 3rd party and they are really all gone after Gears launches. I think i'll wait for the bargain bin to pick up Fable. This year was all third party titles and include Mass Effect in that non-exclusivity now.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Microsoft owns Lionhead. Lionhead and Biowares fate in no way intertwine. Microsofts top exclusives are 3rd party and they are really all gone after Gears launches. I think i'll wait for the bargain bin to pick up Fable. This year was all third party titles and include Mass Effect in that non-exclusivity now. |
Did you completely miss my point? I implied that Lionhead gives us the full game because they're first party and don't port games to other consoles, as opposed to BioWare who does the opposite. I don't know why everybody all of a sudden is playing pat-a-cake with EA in this thread, and I don't know why you've decided to turn this into "Microsoft's first party is small, they have no games" commentary, which is completely irrelevant to anything I said. So anybody in this thread wanna tell me how is this good for anybody without a PS3?




themanwithnoname said:
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It's not good, but it's not bad either, it's completely irrelevant. You bought a game for the content on that disc without any promise of further content down the road. exclusive DLC is unfortunate for those that don't get it but it's something that happens in this day and age and you just have to come to terms with it.
Btw I already put up a link showing that the 6 hours of new content isn't true, so you are literally getting upset over nothing.
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Torillian said:
It's not good, but it's not bad either, it's completely irrelevant. You bought a game for the content on that disc without any promise of further content down the road. exclusive DLC is unfortunate for those that don't get it but it's something that happens in this day and age and you just have to come to terms with it. Btw I already put up a link showing that the 6 hours of new content isn't true, so you are literally getting upset over nothing. |
*facepalm*
Are you really hiding behind the legalities? I'm talking about treating your constomers properly, not what rights I have or yadda, yadda, yadda. Legalities have nothing to do with treating your customers like crap.
I do find it funny that I'm getting told "exclusive DLC is no big deal" by the people most privy to the exclusive DLC though. I'm sure if the shoe was on the other foot, everyone would react the same way. /sarcasm




themanwithnoname said:
Are you really hiding behind the legalities? I'm talking about treating your constomers properly, not what rights I have or yadda, yadda, yadda. Legalities have nothing to do with treating your customers like crap. I do find it funny that I'm getting told "exclusive DLC is no big deal" by the people most privy to the exclusive DLC though. I'm sure if the shoe was on the other foot, everyone would react the same way. /sarcasm |
I'm not hiding behind legalities, I'm telling you that you're acting entitled when you aren't at all. Did it suck when 360 got a bunch of GTAIV DLC exclusive? Obviously, but I didn't talk about how Rockstar had betwrayed their customers. I bought a game and that's it, there was no promise of every piece of content relating to that game being accessible to me explicitly or otherwise.
On your second paragraph: Find a quote from me talking about being betrayed because of exclusive DLC and I'll be quite impressed. Otherwise responding to my response with some bullshit generalization about what I'd say in the opposite situation is just that: bullshit.
and again, there is no 6 hours exclusive mission. It doesn't exist.
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Torillian said:
I'm not hiding behind legalities, I'm telling you that you're acting entitled when you aren't at all. Did it suck when 360 got a bunch of GTAIV DLC exclusive? Obviously, but I didn't talk about how Rockstar had betwrayed their customers. I bought a game and that's it, there was no promise of every piece of content relating to that game being accessible to me explicitly or otherwise. On your second paragraph: Find a quote from me talking about being betrayed because of exclusive DLC and I'll be quite impressed. Otherwise responding to my response with some bullshit generalization about what I'd say in the opposite situation is just that: bullshit. |
It's hard to debate you when you contradict yourself in the first sentence.
It amazes me that some people defend exclusive DLC by hiding behind semantical BS of whether or not people who buy a game are "entitled" to all the content. So tell me, if you truly believe this, why does it suck for anybody to get exclusive DLC? Why would it suck if we weren't all promised every piece of content for the game in the first place?
I'll cut to the gist of my argument: Just because they can do it, doesn't mean it's right, or I have to like it. Tell me how you disagree with that.




themanwithnoname said:
It amazes me that some people defend exclusive DLC by hiding behind semantical BS of whether or not people who buy a game are "entitled" to all the content. So tell me, if you truly believe this, why does it suck for anybody to get exclusive DLC? Why would it suck if we weren't all promised every piece of content for the game in the first place? I'll cut to the gist of my argument: Just because they can do it, doesn't mean it's right. Tell me how you disagree with that. |
That first sentence isn't me arguing the legalities of it, I'm arguing the morality. I see no moral obligation to developers from you buying the retail game.
It sucks because it's unfortunate, you weren't promised a thing but that doesn't mean missing out on DLC isn't still unfortunate. Things don't have to be promised to you for missing out on them to suck, I have no assumptions of entitlement towards the Persona series, but it would still suck if Persona 5 went to a platform I didn't already own.
I disagree with the idea that it's wrong on a moral level, there is nothing that requires developers to give you every DLC they make. I wish that they didn't do it because it's unfortunate when it happens but I disagree with the idea of admonishing developers that do it out of some idea that they're betraying their customers.
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