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theRepublic on 07 November 2010
Khuutra said:

I think attempting to figure out how balanced a setting like this would be is kind of pointless. The thing about power games is that balance is like small-scale planning in combat; neither survives first contact. This seems like effort was put into it, though, and relatively low-impact powers seem very nice. More balanced by nature than having a zillion killing roles.

I'm going to disagree with your first point.  I think it is important for mods to think through power games more carefully than other games.  Thinking through all scenarios and balancing roles accordingly is the only thing that can create big, themed, balanced games.  That and some experience.

I agree with the relatively low-impact powers though.  Makes thinks easier to balance and makes the game less swingy.



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Khuutra on 07 November 2010
theRepublic said:
Khuutra said:

I think attempting to figure out how balanced a setting like this would be is kind of pointless. The thing about power games is that balance is like small-scale planning in combat; neither survives first contact. This seems like effort was put into it, though, and relatively low-impact powers seem very nice. More balanced by nature than having a zillion killing roles.

I'm going to disagree with your first point.  I think it is important for mods to think through power games more carefully than other games.  Thinking through all scenarios and balancing roles accordingly is the only thing that can create big, themed, balanced games.  That and some experience.

I agree with the relatively low-impact powers though.  Makes thinks easier to balance and makes the game less swingy.

Do you hold, then, that good balance can survive the chaos that is real game playing?



theRepublic on 07 November 2010
Khuutra said:
theRepublic said:
Khuutra said:

I think attempting to figure out how balanced a setting like this would be is kind of pointless. The thing about power games is that balance is like small-scale planning in combat; neither survives first contact. This seems like effort was put into it, though, and relatively low-impact powers seem very nice. More balanced by nature than having a zillion killing roles.

I'm going to disagree with your first point.  I think it is important for mods to think through power games more carefully than other games.  Thinking through all scenarios and balancing roles accordingly is the only thing that can create big, themed, balanced games.  That and some experience.

I agree with the relatively low-impact powers though.  Makes thinks easier to balance and makes the game less swingy.

Do you hold, then, that good balance can survive the chaos that is real game playing?

Sure.  WoW accomplished balance in some complicated games.



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Khuutra on 07 November 2010
theRepublic said:
Khuutra said:

Do you hold, then, that good balance can survive the chaos that is real game playing?

Sure.  WoW accomplished balance in some complicated games.

I'd hold that this was a combination of careful moderating and well-balanced sides, rather than inherently balanced roles. Even vanilla games can turn incredibly lop-sided if the teams are arranged just so.



Homer_Simpson on 07 November 2010

um, I got a role PM?

that mean the game thread will be up soon?



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theRepublic on 07 November 2010
Khuutra said:
theRepublic said:
Khuutra said:

Do you hold, then, that good balance can survive the chaos that is real game playing?

Sure.  WoW accomplished balance in some complicated games.

I'd hold that this was a combination of careful moderating and well-balanced sides, rather than inherently balanced roles. Even vanilla games can turn incredibly lop-sided if the teams are arranged just so.

Well balanced sides is exactly what I am talking about though.  I'm not sure what you mean by careful moderating.  Balancing a game should be taking place before the game starts.



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theRepublic on 07 November 2010
Homer_Simpson said:

um, I got a role PM?

that mean the game thread will be up soon?

Yep.  Read Final-Fan's post above.



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Homer_Simpson on 07 November 2010

ah, cool-cool



Final-Fan on 07 November 2010

Game thread up.  The madness begins. 



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