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Uberkiffer said:

I look at it this way: when the 360 was outselling the ps3 according to vgchartz (preadjustments) and Sony was claiming "we sold this many ps3s," there was a huge arguement in virtually every thread on VGChartz about 'shipped vs sold.'  I think that OP has every right to state how many PS3's he saw on a shelf in a store as anecdotal evidence of at least one store sitting on alot of ps3's.  No where does the OP suggest that this does not count toward Sony's actual shipped figures, nor does OP speculate whether or not these 300 PS3s will sell shortly or not.

You PS3 fanboys have the hate turned up so fucking high that it is sad.  You come in here and simply throw out insults and smartass replies rather than add anything of substance to the thread.  You are killing these forums with your rheteric and you are insulting folks who are simply making threads that continue on previously talked about topics.  OP has no clear bias that I can see, so why do you assume that he does?  Because your a blind ranting fanboy who can't handle logical discussion, that's why.

have you seen how many arguements their were about sony overstocking?

have you seen previous threads of the op?

do that and then come back and say what you just said again.



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Uberkiffer said:

I look at it this way: when the 360 was outselling the ps3 according to vgchartz (preadjustments) and Sony was claiming "we sold this many ps3s," there was a huge arguement in virtually every thread on VGChartz about 'shipped vs sold.'  I think that OP has every right to state how many PS3's he saw on a shelf in a store as anecdotal evidence of at least one store sitting on alot of ps3's.  No where does the OP suggest that this does not count toward Sony's actual shipped figures, nor does OP speculate whether or not these 300 PS3s will sell shortly or not.  

You PS3 fanboys have the hate turned up so fucking high that it is sad.  You come in here and simply throw out insults and smartass replies rather than add anything of substance to the thread.  You are killing these forums with your rheteric and you are insulting folks who are simply making threads that continue on previously talked about topics.  OP has no clear bias that I can see, so why do you assume that he does?  Because your a blind ranting fanboy who can't handle logical discussion, that's why.

unfortunatly you and i will prolly recieve bans for this , the internet is the safe haven for sony guys to come together and fight for sony, i have been banned from here sometimes for things that i have no idea were bannable offenses- aparantly speaking what you think is the truth is a bannable offense and freedom of speech is not permitted, but spamimg threads with lame pictures and videos by sony guys gets a slap on the wrist with a feather



Halo_Reach said:
Torillian said:

Alright Sony people, let's try and be a little less annoying with replies alright?

So here ya go Reach, I think you're getting crap because people think you're suggesting this as a reason that the latest adjustments could be false, but in reality it seems perfectly in line with the current situation because even after the adjustments the PS3 has the largest differnce between shipped and sold through which matches their pattern of shipping more than the other companies before the holiday season.

According to PostOfficeBuddy the difference between shipped and sold atm are:

"360 - 900k

Wii - 1.3 million

PS3 - 2.1 million

Slightly rounded of course"

Which means that it is definitely plausible for you to see many more PS3's at Bestbuy's around the country and VGC's numbers are still perfectly fine.


yes that could very well be true, but to have over 300 consoles before the holidays even begins and that was 2 weeks ago, i just went in to buy a few things and noticed the stacks virtually untouched and that was yesterday. the move 320 gb bundles have not sold a one and only a few were missing from the 160 pile. they may have already got what they need for the holidays? i dunno but it is crazy how i get attacked for posting this and i get a 20 day 3 weeks ago for stating that sony was the ones behind npd not publishing numbers, and sony was the only one of the 3 not to release there numbers then they release that they sold 3.5 million in the quarter???? that is over 1 million a month!!! when they havent broken 300k in th us or japan in any month! hell in japan they dont even hit 100k, something is defently not right

you know their were adjustments. and the 3.5 is shipped. 



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Uberkiffer said:

I look at it this way: when the 360 was outselling the ps3 according to vgchartz (preadjustments) and Sony was claiming "we sold this many ps3s," there was a huge arguement in virtually every thread on VGChartz about 'shipped vs sold.'  I think that OP has every right to state how many PS3's he saw on a shelf in a store as anecdotal evidence of at least one store sitting on alot of ps3's.  No where does the OP suggest that this does not count toward Sony's actual shipped figures, nor does OP speculate whether or not these 300 PS3s will sell shortly or not.  

You PS3 fanboys have the hate turned up so fucking high that it is sad.  You come in here and simply throw out insults and smartass replies rather than add anything of substance to the thread.  You are killing these forums with your rheteric and you are insulting folks who are simply making threads that continue on previously talked about topics.  OP has no clear bias that I can see, so why do you assume that he does?  Because your a blind ranting fanboy who can't handle logical discussion, that's why.

And you really think any best buy has "300" PS3"s in stock, on the floor, taking up space 3 days before Kinect launches?? I think youre the one who doesnt understand logic.

Think about it, even if they stacked each one, on top of each other 10 feet high thats essentially 30 STACKS of P3S's so, what roughly....oh a little more than 350 square feet of space dedicated to nothing but PS3's with not GT5 launch on the eve of Kinect.

Anyone heard that Colin Cowherd rant with the guy from KC where he tells him to stick an ice pick through his retina?



Halo_Reach said:
Uberkiffer said:

I look at it this way: when the 360 was outselling the ps3 according to vgchartz (preadjustments) and Sony was claiming "we sold this many ps3s," there was a huge arguement in virtually every thread on VGChartz about 'shipped vs sold.'  I think that OP has every right to state how many PS3's he saw on a shelf in a store as anecdotal evidence of at least one store sitting on alot of ps3's.  No where does the OP suggest that this does not count toward Sony's actual shipped figures, nor does OP speculate whether or not these 300 PS3s will sell shortly or not.

You PS3 fanboys have the hate turned up so fucking high that it is sad.  You come in here and simply throw out insults and smartass replies rather than add anything of substance to the thread.  You are killing these forums with your rheteric and you are insulting folks who are simply making threads that continue on previously talked about topics.  OP has no clear bias that I can see, so why do you assume that he does?  Because your a blind ranting fanboy who can't handle logical discussion, that's why.

unfortunatly you and i will prolly recieve bans for this , the internet is the safe haven for sony guys to come together and fight for sony, i have been banned from here sometimes for things that i have no idea were bannable offenses- aparantly speaking what you think is the truth is a bannable offense and freedom of speech is not permitted, but spamimg threads with lame pictures and videos by sony guys gets a slap on the wrist with a feather

you knew what this was going to cause, you were going to be attacked. stop acting all innocent.

your posts are trolling and are flaimebaits. i mean come on ive read your past posts, sony influenced npd to stop posting numbers, seriously?



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M.U.G.E.N said:
Torillian said:

Alright Sony people, let's try and be a little less annoying with replies alright?

maybe just maybe, everyone is getting tired of these 'insert reason here' indicates Sony may have overshipped threads? Why are you even supporting this crap? It's a useless thread with anectodal evidence that supports NOTHING...

and what's with this 'sony' people? People have a right to question why this type of thread is needed and made without being labelled

You don't want to be labeled as "sony people"?  that's a bit more sensitive than I expected but alright.

"Everyone who replied with a picture, video, or less than 10 word reply should try to actually argue about the topic at hand instead of dismissing it outright with flippant comments"





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Halo_Reach said:

unfortunatly you and i will prolly recieve bans for this , the internet is the safe haven for sony guys to come together and fight for sony, i have been banned from here sometimes for things that i have no idea were bannable offenses- aparantly speaking what you think is the truth is a bannable offense and freedom of speech is not permitted, but spamimg threads with lame pictures and videos by sony guys gets a slap on the wrist with a feather

Actually I reported Uberkiffer for calling us "fanboys", so he might get banned. And no, the internet is not a safe heaven for sony guys, just check how many PS3 fans are banned right now...



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zgamer5 said:
Halo_Reach said:
Torillian said:

Alright Sony people, let's try and be a little less annoying with replies alright?

So here ya go Reach, I think you're getting crap because people think you're suggesting this as a reason that the latest adjustments could be false, but in reality it seems perfectly in line with the current situation because even after the adjustments the PS3 has the largest differnce between shipped and sold through which matches their pattern of shipping more than the other companies before the holiday season.

According to PostOfficeBuddy the difference between shipped and sold atm are:

"360 - 900k

Wii - 1.3 million

PS3 - 2.1 million

Slightly rounded of course"

Which means that it is definitely plausible for you to see many more PS3's at Bestbuy's around the country and VGC's numbers are still perfectly fine.


yes that could very well be true, but to have over 300 consoles before the holidays even begins and that was 2 weeks ago, i just went in to buy a few things and noticed the stacks virtually untouched and that was yesterday. the move 320 gb bundles have not sold a one and only a few were missing from the 160 pile. they may have already got what they need for the holidays? i dunno but it is crazy how i get attacked for posting this and i get a 20 day 3 weeks ago for stating that sony was the ones behind npd not publishing numbers, and sony was the only one of the 3 not to release there numbers then they release that they sold 3.5 million in the quarter???? that is over 1 million a month!!! when they havent broken 300k in th us or japan in any month! hell in japan they dont even hit 100k, something is defently not right

you know their were adjustments. and the 3.5 is shipped. 

yes i understand that, please dont patronize me. what i am stating is that there was no reason or need to ship that many, UNLESS that is the holiday shipment and that will be it. and i am not lieing

(517) 347-2741 this is the number for the patapon guy that called me a liar, please please call them and ask them how many ps3's they have i would love for you to do it , it is still over 300 and dont call me a liar again , thank you



I'm going to have to say bull crap on this.  I'm sorry, but there is no way a Best Buy would ever have 300 systems in a store and if they did, they wouldn't have room on the floor to put them out.  I work at a Best Buy and the most ps3 systems I have ever seen in a store is around 70 and that was around christmas.  If Best Buy has excess systems they are stored in the distribution centers.  So if Sony has overstuffed the channel, you aren't going to see it unless you have access to the distribution centers.  



Halo_Reach said:
zgamer5 said:
Halo_Reach said:
Torillian said:

Alright Sony people, let's try and be a little less annoying with replies alright?

So here ya go Reach, I think you're getting crap because people think you're suggesting this as a reason that the latest adjustments could be false, but in reality it seems perfectly in line with the current situation because even after the adjustments the PS3 has the largest differnce between shipped and sold through which matches their pattern of shipping more than the other companies before the holiday season.

According to PostOfficeBuddy the difference between shipped and sold atm are:

"360 - 900k

Wii - 1.3 million

PS3 - 2.1 million

Slightly rounded of course"

Which means that it is definitely plausible for you to see many more PS3's at Bestbuy's around the country and VGC's numbers are still perfectly fine.


yes that could very well be true, but to have over 300 consoles before the holidays even begins and that was 2 weeks ago, i just went in to buy a few things and noticed the stacks virtually untouched and that was yesterday. the move 320 gb bundles have not sold a one and only a few were missing from the 160 pile. they may have already got what they need for the holidays? i dunno but it is crazy how i get attacked for posting this and i get a 20 day 3 weeks ago for stating that sony was the ones behind npd not publishing numbers, and sony was the only one of the 3 not to release there numbers then they release that they sold 3.5 million in the quarter???? that is over 1 million a month!!! when they havent broken 300k in th us or japan in any month! hell in japan they dont even hit 100k, something is defently not right

you know their were adjustments. and the 3.5 is shipped. 

yes i understand that, please dont patronize me. what i am stating is that there was no reason or need to ship that many, UNLESS that is the holiday shipment and that will be it. and i am not lieing

(517) 347-2741 this is the number for the patapon guy that called me a liar, please please call them and ask them how many ps3's they have i would love for you to do it , it is still over 300 and dont call me a liar again , thank you

do you even know from when to when is q3?

do you know how much the ps3 sold during q3?

im sure you dont, i dont know also, but if i would go doubting the shipment numbers for that quarter those two pieces of data are very important.



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