If that ends up excluding multiplayer trophies in my quest for platinums I am sold for this. XD

Supporting this is like supporting robbery. I hate the sheeps and the consumers.

I think the online pass/free day one DLC for new buys type thing is a great idea!

• It rewards people for buying new
• People can still buy used without missing an essential piece of the game
• People can still buy used and for a minimum price get the DLC and support the developers
• Used prices will be lowered so people still buy used

It's a win all around.

The key difference is if you buy used other things, like cars, you're getting something cheaper that should be cheaper.  There's a large amount of difference between a used car and a new car.

When you buy a new game and a used game, there's no difference what-so-ever so that really takes away any reason to buy it new.  When you're looking at a used copy of Red Dead and a new copy of Red Dead, they're really no difference.  The used case might have some dings in it, but that doesn't affect the game at all.  The only difference is about $5 in price.  Why wouldn't you buy used?

Furthermore, people that buy used demand the same exact support as the people that buy new!  When you buy used copy of Red Dead, you aren't a customer of Rockstar, you're a copy of Gamestop (or whatever you bought it) yet Rockstar must still support you.  Going back to the car example, if I buy a used car, I'm a buy a used Civic, I'm a customer of that dealership and Honda doesn't have to do anything to support me.

I don't really mind that much....I like being rewarded to buy a game brand new....If I rent or buy a game used that means I don't expect to play it as much as if I would buy it new.

I've been calling this for over a year now.  Count me in with d21lewis.

Sorry, but it's extremely convent implementation to get around the practice of screwing over developers with used game market. It also sounds like a reward to those who don't know any better. So yeah. It will take off. All games sooner or later will be online. Get over it. Plus it's better than other forms of DRM.

I keep on saying the best way to beat piracy and used game market is not protection. It is instead it is found in giving and not taking. They are giving more to those who buy the game. Of course there is the perspective that the content should have been it originally. I also believe that developers will abuse this significantly, but give it time as the entire system matures. Then no one will care and it will be the norm.

You don't think multiplayer is an essential part? Well, I guess they didn't do it this time but before this, someone did. In the end, it's up to the publisher to decide what they want behind the lock and I'm sure multiplayer is one of those things that would require the online pass pretty soon if this became more popular.

Also, I wouldn't be so sure about used prices getting lower. It also means people get less when they sell the game, and they are less likely to sell it. Maybe prices will get lower but not nearly as much as you'd expect.

It's funny how the defenders of digital distribution always come up with the argument how digitally distributed games never break while physical copies may break. I'm not saying you're saying so, it's just funny (actually it's annoying).

Do I think multiplayer is essential?  No, I don't touch it most games, even Madden.

And used prices will lower if 1) there's more competiion (Best Buy, Wal-Mart, Target, Amazon, etc) and if 2) people don't buy as many used games because they don't get as good of deals.

Its a fucking dumb idea, and as said before I cant imagine anyone other than investors of the company suporting this. Do you know whats going to happen when people get wise to this?

New Buyers will not have as much money to buy new games, they will buy less new games or buy more used games. Their trade in/craigslist value for their games will be marginalized and they will not have as much money to buy new. So the game industry takes losses/ not necessiraly makes the gains on the multiplayer DLC.

Used gamers may buy less used games but will NOT buy new games at full retail price. They will wait until they can get their Madden/COD or whatever at a cheaper new price becaues they didnt have/want/or feel a game is worth $60. The dev does gain money from this, presumably relative to the sale price of the game.

Pissed off gamers will not buy and bootleg the games to stick it to the industry that they feel is getting too greedy.

So I think in the end it will be a wash, game companies will probably sell more copies at a lower overall price point

You act like you can get recently released games for 1/2 if you buy used.  You only save $5.

When the game does reach the point where it's something like $30, then you're only spending $5.  It's not a huge deal and think of it as supporting the people that poured their blood sweat and tears into entertaining you.