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Mr Puggsly on 19 October 2010
leatherhat said:


Yeah I agree, it makes solid business success and they'll undoubtedly see great profits and sales with it. But as a consumer its hard  to watch them close down Ensemble and castrate Rare and then turn around and spend half a billion on Kinect. 

As I mentioned, MS still has Ensmble making games for them... as Robot Entertainment. And now they can make PS3 games (we could assume they would be RTS games)!

I don't understand what you're implying when you say, "castrate Rare." I'm not sure what MS did other than buy the studio. Perhaps that studio just needs to get their shit together and this isn't so much an issue with MS.



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leatherhat on 19 October 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
leatherhat said:


Yeah I agree, it makes solid business success and they'll undoubtedly see great profits and sales with it. But as a consumer its hard  to watch them close down Ensemble and castrate Rare and then turn around and spend half a billion on Kinect. 

As I mentioned, MS still has Ensmble making games for them... as Robot Entertainment. And now they can make PS3 games (we could assume they would be RTS games)!

I don't understand what you're implying when you say, "castrate Rare." I'm not sure what MS did other than buy the studio. Perhaps that studio just needs to get their shit together and this isn't so much an issue with MS.

Console rts games are abysmal. No thanks on this one. And I like that you say they can make games on ps3 as If that would entice me to a crappy console rts. 

Ms owns rare, they control them. And thus they assume responsibility for the studios success and failures. And MS made what was once a great company into someone who produces shovelware and makes avatar clothes. 



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leatherhat on 19 October 2010
leatherhat said:
Mr Puggsly said:
leatherhat said:


Yeah I agree, it makes solid business success and they'll undoubtedly see great profits and sales with it. But as a consumer its hard  to watch them close down Ensemble and castrate Rare and then turn around and spend half a billion on Kinect. 

As I mentioned, MS still has Ensmble making games for them... as Robot Entertainment. And now they can make PS3 games (we could assume they would be RTS games)! 

I don't understand what you're implying when you say, "castrate Rare." I'm not sure what MS did other than buy the studio. Perhaps that studio just needs to get their shit together and this isn't so much an issue with MS.

Console rts games are abysmal. No thanks on this one. And I like that you say they can make games on ps3 as If that would entice me to a crappy console rts. As If you think I'm so blindly loyal to a corporate giant. 

Ms owns rare, they control them. And thus they assume responsibility for the studios success and failures. And MS made what was once a great company into someone who produces shovelware and makes avatar clothes. 





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Squilliam on 19 October 2010
disolitude said:
Squilliam said:

Incoming complaint -> They only succeeded because they heaps of advertisng. Will probably be seen Nov 2010.


I see this happening as well. Damn, this thread went to shit in the 5 hours I was not here...

Here is a question Squil... If Kinect is a massive success, and sells a boatload, eclipsing the Wii...Will Sony execs be kicking themselves and saying "Damn it, we copied the wrong shovelware filled peripheral?"

Well actually they will be kicking themselves because they already had said peripheral out first and did absolutely nothing interesting with said peripheral. Said peripheral is PSEye and Eyetoy both.



Tease.

FF_Fanatic on 19 October 2010

I have a feeling they will never make that money back....



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Mr Puggsly on 19 October 2010
leatherhat said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Very impressive, with every post you become an even bigger troll.

They didn't pump half a million into, "a shovelware filled peripheral." That pumped half a BILLION. The Kinect is gonna sell a shit ton of units. On top of that, it'll boost console and software sales. I'm sure MS has plenty to spend on games as well.

I'm confused about the Ensemble Situation. Perhaps MS felt they didn't need a studio that was pretty much dedicated to creating RTS games. However, Robot Entertainment which is former employees of Ensemble are working on Age of Empires Online. Perhaps they also wanted to leave so they can do whatever projects they desired.


That would be great If I could get a cut of each Kinect sold, but alas I cannot. As for age of empires, mmo being pumped into its veins was the last thing I needed to see. 

I'm not sure what your point is. I mean you were bitching about how they spend their money now you're pretending you don't care because you're not financilly involved? Lets just move on.

In regards to Age of Empires, the moral of the story is MS still has them working on AoE. Which could potentially lead to them working on AoE 4. They just aren't a studio owned by MS anymore.



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badgenome on 19 October 2010
disolitude said:


I see this happening as well. Damn, this thread went to shit in the 5 hours I was not here...

I don't agree. It's been a long time since I've seen an old fashioned, honest to goodness LIST WARZ. Keep it up, guys!



leatherhat on 19 October 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
leatherhat said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Very impressive, with every post you become an even bigger troll.

They didn't pump half a million into, "a shovelware filled peripheral." That pumped half a BILLION. The Kinect is gonna sell a shit ton of units. On top of that, it'll boost console and software sales. I'm sure MS has plenty to spend on games as well.

I'm confused about the Ensemble Situation. Perhaps MS felt they didn't need a studio that was pretty much dedicated to creating RTS games. However, Robot Entertainment which is former employees of Ensemble are working on Age of Empires Online. Perhaps they also wanted to leave so they can do whatever projects they desired.


That would be great If I could get a cut of each Kinect sold, but alas I cannot. As for age of empires, mmo being pumped into its veins was the last thing I needed to see. 

I'm not sure what your point is. I mean you were bitching about how they spend their money now you're pretending you don't care because you're not financilly involved? Lets just move on.

In regards to Age of Empires, the moral of the story is MS still has them working on AoE. Which could potentially lead to them working on AoE 4. They just aren't a studio owned by MS anymore.

Its because you don't want to comprehend. I'm not bitching about there spending because I have a stake in their finances. I'm bitching because they're spending all this money on Kinect and let their studios wither on the vine and not make any games. 



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leatherhat on 19 October 2010
badgenome said:
disolitude said:


I see this happening as well. Damn, this thread went to shit in the 5 hours I was not here...

I don't agree. It's been a long time since I've seen an old fashioned, honest to goodness LIST WARZ. Keep it up, guys!

my grocery list is coming up next. Its gonna be brutal, so stick around. 



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badgenome on 19 October 2010
leatherhat said:
badgenome said:
disolitude said:


I see this happening as well. Damn, this thread went to shit in the 5 hours I was not here...

I don't agree. It's been a long time since I've seen an old fashioned, honest to goodness LIST WARZ. Keep it up, guys!

my grocery list is coming up next. Its gonna be brutal, so stick around. 

It's probably full of sequels. No wonder your diet is in decline YOY... people are losing interest!

Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to:

- a kumquat (I've never had one before!)

- Fruity Pebbles (kids love it, and I haven't had any in at least a couple of years now, so this will be sort of a reboot)

- Metamucil (for the mature audience)

- an old favorite or two

- new, unannounced foods!