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AnthonyW86 said:

If this is true i'm officially selling my 360, what a complete rip-off. For the same money they could sell the first 10 million(!!) Kintect bundles for $99. If Microsoft is really this stupid, i don't want anything to do with it.

I'm sorry but that's truely an idiotic argument.  Every game and every product has a marketing budget.  As stated in this thread Sony's overall marketing budget is over 5 billion a year, with that money they could give away 16 million PS3s a year!   Are you giving back your PS3 too since you had to pay for it when Sony clearly has the cash to give you a free one?



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leatherhat said:

The same games series they've been making since the beginning, while sony creates a constant stream of new games- both sequels and IPs. Compared to sony and nintendo- and even a lot of third parties- MS makes very few games. Your second point might have weight if you could play sales.

Once again, I'm going to steer you back to the original comment.

You said MS's 1st party is nonexistent. This discussion had nothing to do with who puts out the most 1st party games.

That's not what I responded to and that's not the discussion I'm having.



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Mr Puggsly said:
leatherhat said:

The same games series they've been making since the beginning, while sony creates a constant stream of new games- both sequels and IPs. Compared to sony and nintendo- and even a lot of third parties- MS makes very few games. Your second point might have weight if you could play sales.

Once again, I'm going to steer you back to the original comment.

You said MS's 1st party is nonexistent. This had nothing to do with who puts out the most 1st party games.

That's not what I responded to and that's not the discussion I'm having.

Aight bro you win, the amount of games MS makes is greater than zero. Gotta love literal interpretations of hyperbole. 



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leatherhat said:
Mr Puggsly said:
leatherhat said:

The same games series they've been making since the beginning, while sony creates a constant stream of new games- both sequels and IPs. Compared to sony and nintendo- and even a lot of third parties- MS makes very few games. Your second point might have weight if you could play sales.

Once again, I'm going to steer you back to the original comment.

You said MS's 1st party is nonexistent. This had nothing to do with who puts out the most 1st party games.

That's not what I responded to and that's not the discussion I'm having.

Aight bro you win, the amount of games MS makes is greater than zero. Gotta love literal interpretations of hyperbole. 

Not only is it greater than zero... PS3 and 360 are about equal. It varies depending what games are released.

Ultimately, the 360's 1st party is just as relevant as Sony if not more. Because Halo might be the biggest console seller this gen. People even pay to play it online in massive numbers.



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Mr Puggsly said:
leatherhat said:
Mr Puggsly said:
leatherhat said:

The same games series they've been making since the beginning, while sony creates a constant stream of new games- both sequels and IPs. Compared to sony and nintendo- and even a lot of third parties- MS makes very few games. Your second point might have weight if you could play sales.

Once again, I'm going to steer you back to the original comment.

You said MS's 1st party is nonexistent. This had nothing to do with who puts out the most 1st party games.

That's not what I responded to and that's not the discussion I'm having.

Aight bro you win, the amount of games MS makes is greater than zero. Gotta love literal interpretations of hyperbole. 

Not only is it greater than zero... PS3 and 360 are about equal. It varies depending what games are released.

Ultimately, the 360's 1st party is just as relevant as Sony if not more. Because Halo might be the biggest console seller this gen. People even pay to play it online in massive numbers.

No. Sony makes way more games. 


It will also continue to destroy the fps genre. So thats cool.



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leatherhat said:

No. Sony makes way more games. 


It will also continue to destroy the fps genre. So thats cool.

Doesn't matter how many games you put out. What makes you a big publisher/developer is sales and profits.

I don't recall Sony destroying the FPS genre. I don't think people point to Sony shooters when they are discussing the biggest shooters.



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Mr Puggsly said:
leatherhat said:

No. Sony makes way more games. 


It will also continue to destroy the fps genre. So thats cool.

Doesn't matter how many games you put out. What makes you a big publisher/developer is sales and profits.

I don't recall Sony destroying the FPS genre. I don't think people point to Sony shooters when they are discussing the biggest shooters.

So you're one of those guys huh? One of those people who would rather ride a companies dick and want them to be in a better business position than make a better product. Cause you know from the consumers perspective its better have ten games than three. Regardless of sales. 

No they aren't. Maybe SOCOM. So you're right sony didn't destroy the fps genre, MS did. 



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leatherhat said:

So you're one of those guys huh? One of those people who would rather ride a companies dick and want them to be in a better business position than make a better product. Cause you know from the consumers perspective its better have ten games than three. Regardless of sales. 

No they aren't. Maybe SOCOM. So you're right sony didn't destroy the fps genre, MS did. 

I'm not sure what you're talking about. I mean MS has plenty of IPs and great product. I do believe you're using them as the example of "three game." So that kills your argument.



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Mr Puggsly said:
leatherhat said:

So you're one of those guys huh? One of those people who would rather ride a companies dick and want them to be in a better business position than make a better product. Cause you know from the consumers perspective its better have ten games than three. Regardless of sales. 

No they aren't. Maybe SOCOM. So you're right sony didn't destroy the fps genre, MS did. 

I'm not sure what you're talking about. I mean MS has plenty of IPs and great product. So that kills your argument.

Keep telling  yourself that, and Ill just keep watching MS destroy companies like ensemble and pump a half a million into a shovelware filled peripheral.



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