yea I see 7/9M in NA, 11/13M in EMEAA and 4/6M in Japan first week, 15/17M in NA, 24/26M in EMEAA and 10/12M in Japan LT. Best selling game EVAR guys! (lol would almost sell like wii sports :p)

Maybe he's indeed doing that just so people can quote him later to prove that it disappointed.

Anyone saying it will do less than 7 million is kidding themselves. 7 million is the initial shipment (and I'm not even sure that includes bundles of which there are 50k going to France and about 200k to Japan). And shipped eventually equals sold.

The odds of it doing under 7 million are 10x greater than it doing over 15 million.

1 - I learned from betting on sports thats odds are nothing but a man made illusion to mask the lack of knowledge about a specific out come.

2 - odds are irrelevent when done with alot of science behind them, your odds are nothing but lolz. 

It may be the "lolz" but it still isnt as funny as people who genuinley believe this game will sell over 15 million copies. Now thats "lolz".

But in all serious it wont surpass GT3 i find it really hard to believe people here think its even possible, you have something like GTA4 a franchise more popular than Gran Turismo on both Xbox 360 and PS3 fail to hit 15 million (yet) but something less popular on just the PS3 is gonna do it? obviously not.

This is the site that predicted Resistance 2 had a good shot at beating Gears of War 2, and that Killzone 2 was gonna sell over 5 million copies, that MAG was gonna sell over 3 million copies mind you so its not like they dont usually make silly predictions.

People were already proven wrong when Gran Turismo PSP flopped youd thing thatd be enough, looking at the wall for that game.

"I expected more for a GT game"

"Surprised its so low"

"Yeah not as good as i thought"

"Bad sales for a GT game"

"Pretty poor sales in the USA"

"Wow really bad US sales"

"Bad Europe sales aswell" 

"Wow, I wasn't expecting outstanding numbers but this is definitely a bomb"

And thats just out of the first page of comments, i'll be seeing similar comments in a few weeks time when GT disappoints everybody again.

WOW You know what I found out recently?

Honda is bundling all Honda Civic Si's with a copy of GT5. They sell over 10 million of those a year right?

So we should expect over 10 million by next year.

P.S. Who cares anymore. You guys are arguing to the point where it's irrelevent. No one will prove to anyone that the game is going to sell xx number of units. It comes out in 9 days, just give it a rest until then. I'm going to enjoy Forza 3 for one last week before GT5 spoils me.

I covered this earlier, but it's less the total size of the userbase and more it's makeup.  GT relies more on the mainstream audience than the "core" oriented GOW.  Just look at how both series have done on PSP, or how other more mainstream reliant Sony IPs have done on PS3 (Ratchet & Clank, Hot Shots Golf) versus last gen.

LOL!!

another week to go till the massive crow serving! I have a feeling the meltdowns will be gigantic.

ahh delays doesn't hurt a game, actually its a good thing if you want the game to be as good as possible

I know what you mean, and i really do want GoW3 to be the best selling in the series, but it has to sell about 700,000 more units. maybe its possible, and its still selling well, but 700,000 units is a lot imo. and even if it outsells the 1st one i still want it to get to about 4.5 mil, because its such an excellent series, but is that really feasible??