Maybe he is referring to the fact if there is no God then there is no such thing as gay rights or any other rights. The universe nor nature itself  does not reveals right vs wrong including killing,rape,etc . Killing is very natural. Again atheist is a "nothing" which of itself stand for or against nothing. Without God the only rights  that exist is the one government gives you which are in the position of God.

@Joelcool7:

Can anything worse really happen to a person?

I agree. It's worse than death IMHO.

Am I living in an alternate reality?

Don't know, but like many other people here, I find it hard to beleive that what you said is true. It's just too far fetched.

Could I have sex with another guy, thats a trick question if I say yes you'll say I'm gay if I say no you'll say I'm a hypocrit. So I won't answer the question, but considering how much I value my faith you should be able to come to the conclusion yourself.

I was asking hypothetically. Wasn't actually telling you to go ahead and do it, so don't worry about it. FTR, I was asking whether you would find a guy attractive, and whether you'd enjoy it if you had sex with this hypothetical guy in this hypothetical situation (no alcohol/drugs, as that tends to lead to funny situations).

Human sacrafices are a thing of the past. Look at it this way alot of people are trying to legalize euthonasia, whats the difference? I believe suicide is wrong and a sin but if someone chooses to terminate their life isn't that their decision? (Oh boy I just opened a huge can of worms)

Euthanasia and human sacrifices are totally different. On the one hand you have people sacrificing someone to a deity (without said person's consent). On the other hand you have an ill person who wants to escape a slow painfull death through an artificially induced quick and painless one. Not at all similar.

Our emotions are the product of thousands of years of evolution. Morality is a product of natural selection. We work best as a species when we work collaboratively, which is the reason why we nurture our young and love each other. It's not that it makes those emotions any less "real," though. The big bad government isn't the only thing we can look to in leiu of religion; our morality can be based solely off of social interaction and past experience.

Example: You are called a bad name by one of your friends and you tear up because it makes you sad to hear it. You then remember a time when you called someone a bad name and realize your mistake. Name calling = bad. A very simplistic example, but it works. Morality works much the same as our other knowledge. Similarly, for example, if one burns their finger on the stove and feel pain, they will make a conscious effort in the future to not touch the stove again.

This isn't the only way we learn, of course. I almost forgot to mention that. We don't just learn from action/reaction situations.

you do realize this is a religous belief itself and can't be proven with hard facts. How do you know ours moral comes from evolution?

I'm not saying that any obsession can be thought of as a religion, i'm saying that religion covers any kind of worshipping. Like you said, music is your life, but it's not a religion if you don't worship music artists or the concept of music, etc., if you worshiped Mozart, or the G-minor chord, or the drums, then it would be a religion. And even if you worshiped music, it would not be violent until you decided to do riots or take lives for the sake of music, i agree on that.

Like i said in previous posts, the Germans who worshiped Hitler and the Argentinians who worship Maradona are both in a religion, the difference is in the agenda. Like i also said, all religions are made by humans, and humans are the ones that decide which path to follow, and that goes for religious leaders and religious followers. 

I'm not against people having religious beliefs (i would be happy if everyone didn't have blind faith and all the world could have critical thinking, but like Voltaire said "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it.") , what i'm against is people carrying those beliefs to state laws, policies, state schools, etc. because when that happens, we enter in discrimination, massive irrationality, and in extreme cases, violence in all levels.

As for the moral issue, moral can be thought without religion, although it's more challenging, i give you that.

Let me set something straight here. Evolution is not a religious belief (i.e. it has a logical foundation). Everything from the fossil record to a recent experiment involving some 40,000 generations of E-coli (which over just 20 years of experimentation evolved the ability to utilize citrate which is impossible in the wild strain of the bacteria) provide very solid evidence for the phenomenon of evolution. While we cannot be completely, 100% certain of anything(...ever!), probability tips the scale almost completely in favor of the evolutionary theory.

My hypothesis regarding the origins of morality is also not without basis. Quite simply, at the point in time when our primate ancestors branched off into two separate evolutionary paths, homo sapiens differentiated from others in their collaborative effort, skill for communication and improvisation of tools. We still carry these traits today. Other current day primates also work collaboratively to hunt prey and so on.

It's ridiculous to say that evolution is a religious belief. This would imply that you are solely using faith to provide evidence for what you think (believing something with no evidence to speak of), whereas we can be relatively certain (by your logic nobody can't "know" anything at all) that the phenomena described in evolutionary theory are sound.

Nature finds the best way for a species to survive. Which, as it happens, for social creatures like ourselves requires a form of morality.

We've recently had a similar discussion in another thread, atheists are no less moral than theists. They are in fact, at least in the USA, less likely to commit violent crimes than the Christians.

 Nature is all over the place so you have to be careful getting morals from nature.

 I'm not suggest individual atheist has no morals but that you can't base morals on athesim nor nature. When pushed to give an answer even Richard Dawkins agreed.

 As far as those who commit crimes then turn around and claim they believe in God , don't you think if you likely to break the law you will also likely to lie .. like saying you believe in God. In America we call this "Jail house religion". When they get out of jail they often leave their religion/God back  in the jail.

Well, i see people saying ''you have no right to judge anyone because they are attracted to same gender'' but than they call other people who disagree with them biggots and homophobes. Than they say ''youur beliefs dont matter'' but than they pretend like their beliefs are the right ones simply because they think so and try to force them on you. Then they go out and say that christianity sees homosexuality as a sin. thiat is an example of pure ignorance. then the people go on saying that if you dont support gay marrige your a big homophobe and biggot. i dont support it and im not either of those things. and if you try to convice me diffrent, you just proved my 1st point.