Rath said:
Smidlee said:
kowhoho said:
pizzahut451 said:
I dont think i have EVER in my life seen so much double standared hypocrites and ignornce in one plce as i have in this thread today. Dear God...
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I haven't been keeping up with this thread (as it's entirely derailed at this point). If you wouldn't mind terribly could you give some examples of this hypocracy so I could have even a small chance of re-entering this conversation?
The last page or so is riddled with convoluted quote boxes and italiced/non-italicized text and everyone is using different formatting techniques. It's all very confusing! >.<
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Maybe he is referring to the fact if there is no God then there is no such thing as gay rights or any other rights. The universe nor nature itself does not reveals right vs wrong including killing,rape,etc . Killing is very natural. Again atheist is a "nothing" which of itself stand for or against nothing. Without God the only rights that exist is the one government gives you which are in the position of God.
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Nature finds the best way for a species to survive. Which, as it happens, for social creatures like ourselves requires a form of morality.
We've recently had a similar discussion in another thread, atheists are no less moral than theists. They are in fact, at least in the USA, less likely to commit violent crimes than the Christians.
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Nature is all over the place so you have to be careful getting morals from nature.
I'm not suggest individual atheist has no morals but that you can't base morals on athesim nor nature. When pushed to give an answer even Richard Dawkins agreed.
As far as those who commit crimes then turn around and claim they believe in God , don't you think if you likely to break the law you will also likely to lie .. like saying you believe in God. In America we call this "Jail house religion". When they get out of jail they often leave their religion/God back in the jail.
