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outlawauron on 05 October 2010
naznatips said:

And with 6 years of development time, the cost of HD development, and the cost of a late-development port, it only cost them 3 times as much to make! Yay Square Enix. You can only go up.

PS: I'm actually enjoying the game, now 30 hours in and on Gran Pulse, but it's not incredible. The combat system is great, but still mid-range for an FF game at best, and not near my favorite JRPGs this gen (Namely TWEWY, Lost Odyssey, Yakuza 3).


Come on Naz, with that statement, you're saying that XIII cost $120 million to make which is just preposterous. (FFXII is confirmed to have cost $40 million)

 

I know it cost more, but let's not get too crazy.



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naznatips on 06 October 2010


hikaruchan on 06 October 2010
Qays said:
Wagram said:
hikaruchan said:
Wagram said:
Qays said:

XIII is one of the hardest games in the series. Don't get me wrong - I LIKED that about it. The combat system is great, the difficulty is great. But can you imagine one of these retarded Leona Lewis-listening CoD fans actually beating demon Pope? I can't.

And seriously, Leona Lewis????? I still have no idea why she's in FF. You'd think a company as large as Squenix would understand that western gamers don't like shitty pop stars in their games.


XIII is actually one of the easiest in the series.

I have played every main  FF game and every FF spin-off and FFXIII is a odd game in that all the boss battles are very easy complained to all other FF games I found the ordinary battles were made more difficult then in any other FF game.   

None of the bosses in the game were even remotely hard. At least in the other FF games I died on occassion.

You overleveled or you have gotten better at playing RPGs since you started playing FF. That's all there is to it.

XIII is the only modern FF where you can't win solely on the back of spamming attack. That alone is enough to qualify it as the hardest of the lot.

You can not over level in FFXIII the games leveling systems is designed to stop you from doing that unlike all other FF were that was possible.



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A203D on 06 October 2010
outlawauron said:
naznatips said:

And with 6 years of development time, the cost of HD development, and the cost of a late-development port, it only cost them 3 times as much to make! Yay Square Enix. You can only go up.

PS: I'm actually enjoying the game, now 30 hours in and on Gran Pulse, but it's not incredible. The combat system is great, but still mid-range for an FF game at best, and not near my favorite JRPGs this gen (Namely TWEWY, Lost Odyssey, Yakuza 3).


Come on Naz, with that statement, you're saying that XIII cost $120 million to make which is just preposterous. (FFXII is confirmed to have cost $40 million)

 

I know it cost more, but let's not get too crazy.

I think it cost $75 mil, but all of that was covered by Microsoft who gifted SE with $75 for marketing. however imo, i dont think MS are very happy with the 360 sales of the game. i doubt they think it was $75 mil well spent, lol.



naznatips on 06 October 2010
outlawauron said:
naznatips said:

And with 6 years of development time, the cost of HD development, and the cost of a late-development port, it only cost them 3 times as much to make! Yay Square Enix. You can only go up.

PS: I'm actually enjoying the game, now 30 hours in and on Gran Pulse, but it's not incredible. The combat system is great, but still mid-range for an FF game at best, and not near my favorite JRPGs this gen (Namely TWEWY, Lost Odyssey, Yakuza 3).


Come on Naz, with that statement, you're saying that XIII cost $120 million to make which is just preposterous. (FFXII is confirmed to have cost $40 million)

 

I know it cost more, but let's not get too crazy.

Sure, I believe it's possible it cost $120 million. It's easily over $100 million.Consider all the costs to this game:

It spent two years in development on PS2, and got through a full concept and brand new working engine before being scrapped. That alone was probably near $20 million.

It then spent an additional four years in development on PS3, and they went back to scratch on the concept and storyboard. That's crazy. Metal Gear Solid 4 cost $60 million and it was done in two and a half years.

They developed an entire new engine for the game. Then scrapped most of it, and redeveloped it to be a multiplatform engine. Now, you can say it's unfair to count engine development towards the cost, but they're already scrapping this engine after Versus! It's enormously expensive to build a multiplatform engine.

Finally, when development was almost complete, they had to deal with a PS3 to 360 port, which btw is the more expensive direction to port, and delayed release of the game even further compounding the costs many times over.

 

So yeah, FFXIII was probably $120 million. It's easily the most expensive development this generation, and Square Enix has not and never will see one penny for it. That said, it's not nearly the financial disaster Versus is.



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Darc Requiem on 06 October 2010

I'm not sure of FFXIII's total cost but for a game to spend that long in development feel so incomplete is inexcusable. They "streamlined" out all of the content that JRPGs usually have to break up the monotony.



Scoobes on 06 October 2010
naznatips said:

 

Finally, when development was almost complete, they had to deal with a PS3 to 360 port, which btw is the more expensive direction to port, and delayed release of the game even further compounding the costs many times over.

You have a source for this? I was sure it was the other way round.




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naznatips on 06 October 2010
Scoobes said:
naznatips said:

 

Finally, when development was almost complete, they had to deal with a PS3 to 360 port, which btw is the more expensive direction to port, and delayed release of the game even further compounding the costs many times over.

You have a source for this? I was sure it was the other way round.


It was in one of those Pachter things on GT the other day, but the explanation is pretty simple. When you're going from many cores to less cores it's much more difficult than less to many. The PS3's design makes it hard to port from it to other systems, which is why for the vast majority of multiplatform games it's been the port console, rather than the primary.



tonio_13 on 06 October 2010

Wow some guys are speculating way too much.

If this was the case S-E will be posting loss every fiscal results. But it's not the case, they profit, and by a far margin.



Ideas on 06 October 2010

its nice to see FF XIII getting past 12.i liked both but 13's ending was a little bit disappointing other then that its awesome game!!!