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Maynard_Tool on 17 September 2010
Seece said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Seece said:
Barozi said:
Seece said:

Lowest ever Wii sales.

Wonder if it'll fall in the coming weeks ..


really ?

I could imagine next week will be lower.

Well, same time last year it kept declining until end of September, when Nintendo cut the price. They COULD do another legacy deal type thing in some fashion, or a permanent price cut. If they don't .. Wii "dominating " xmas talk is just bullshit, they're likely to win, but dominate? I don't think so.

OT: X360 outsells Wii for 12th week in a row.

WAIT.... Didn't the wii outsold the X360 last week?

Nope, adjustments!


Oh I see.

How do you find about about adjustments? Is there a thread? Or you just go and check last weeks sales later on....



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Seece on 17 September 2010

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/82086/2010-year-on-year-sales-and-market-share-update-to-september-11th/

Marketshare updates.

PS3 slim saw sales consistantly in the 250k bracket from now on this time last year.

19th Sep - 273,628   
26th Sep - 245,783
3rd Oct - 272,574
10th Oct - 241,743   
17th Oct - 266,163
24th Oct - 252,179   
31st Oct - 271,285

Going by that, does anyone expect Move to give PS3 any boost like that? ioi doesn't expect a big HW lift at all for move, so lets be nice and say sales lift to 150k a week and are maintained .. that's still a 800k YOY loss over those weeks. Taking PS3's YOY gains to 600k.

Who thinks PS3 can still be up YOY?



 

Seece on 17 September 2010
Maynard_Tool said:
Seece said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Seece said:
Barozi said:
Seece said:

Lowest ever Wii sales.

Wonder if it'll fall in the coming weeks ..


really ?

I could imagine next week will be lower.

Well, same time last year it kept declining until end of September, when Nintendo cut the price. They COULD do another legacy deal type thing in some fashion, or a permanent price cut. If they don't .. Wii "dominating " xmas talk is just bullshit, they're likely to win, but dominate? I don't think so.

OT: X360 outsells Wii for 12th week in a row.

WAIT.... Didn't the wii outsold the X360 last week?

Nope, adjustments!


Oh I see.

How do you find about about adjustments? Is there a thread? Or you just go and check last weeks sales later on....

Yeah I update a lot of threads so always check previous weeks sales to adjust.



 

ROBOTECHHEAVEN on 17 September 2010

good 360 sales, ps3 is doing ok but i dont think next weeks sales for the ps3 with move's launch being that much better. maybe a small bump in hardware sales but not much. with reach the 360  should see a decent boost i think, wii needs help and in a big way and fast.



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Squilliam on 17 September 2010
binary solo said:

MGS4 is only a few weeks from 5 million. Great stuff, first PS3 5 million exclusive if I'm not mistaken. It should make it there before GT5 release, but even if it doesn't it should beat GT5 to 5 million.

Uncharted 2 still tricking along after almost 1 year. >4 million LTD is pretty much certain I think. They should come out with a GOTY version with a bunch of online maps and some other added goodies thrown in.

ME2 has hit 2 million. Solid result. Looks like it will outsell ME1 on Xbox alone, and then PS3 will push at least 500K I think, 1 million would be great but pretty wishful thinking. It's on my buy list for PS3 for sure.

GoW III rolling towards 3 million. Will certainly beat GoW II, not sure if it'll make it to GoW though. (Of course with GoW collection I & II are out of reach of GoW III, but that's cheating a bit).

Alan Wake is mere weeks from 750K, which I think given it's less than amazing start is a pretty good outcome. It really benefitted from the 360s launch, much more so than a lot of other games that have a much higher LTD.

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Antabus on 17 September 2010
Metallicube said:
thx1139 said:
Metallicube said:

I don't get why everybody raves about Reach and GT5 pushing HD consoles then act like somehow Wii is impervious to hardware movers..

 

Because we are talking them bumping the console a couple of hundred thousand. That isnt enough to change the trajectory.  As someone else said in a couple of weeks the Halo Reach bump will be basically over. 

A good quality lineup with additions throughout the year maintains sales.  It also gets back to last year.  Wii sales jumped when the price dropped, but the Nintendo fans say it was because of NSMBWii which came nearly 2 months later.  If Nintendo doesnt drop the price this year you will see.  And what you will see will be pretty standard climb to holiday levels in November and December.

NSMB Wii has sold 15 million, and is still hovering around the top 10 charts nearly a year later. That is what I call the ULTIMATE hardware mover. To claim that somehow a $50 price cut had more of an effect on the hardware than the most popular franchise of all time is pretty laughable. In essence, if NSMB Wii is NOT a hardware mover, then no game is.

Remember in Japan Wii sales barely rose when it had its price cut. Only after NSMB Wii did sales really take off. The game single handedly sold out Wiis nearly worldwide after the console was recently in pretty steep decline.

Duh, the game released december in Japan. And in late november elsewhere. The game did not boost the hw as much as the pricecut and the holiday season did. But you can keep on hoping that a donkey kong game will boost HW.

Unless the game releases on late  november once again, then you can keep claiming that it actually did boost HW. But hey, I think you said it yourself. Wii gets more holiday boost than other consoles because of the parent who want to buy the kid friendliest console as a present.



mjk45 on 17 September 2010
Squilliam said:
binary solo said:

MGS4 is only a few weeks from 5 million. Great stuff, first PS3 5 million exclusive if I'm not mistaken. It should make it there before GT5 release, but even if it doesn't it should beat GT5 to 5 million.

Uncharted 2 still tricking along after almost 1 year. >4 million LTD is pretty much certain I think. They should come out with a GOTY version with a bunch of online maps and some other added goodies thrown in.

ME2 has hit 2 million. Solid result. Looks like it will outsell ME1 on Xbox alone, and then PS3 will push at least 500K I think, 1 million would be great but pretty wishful thinking. It's on my buy list for PS3 for sure.

GoW III rolling towards 3 million. Will certainly beat GoW II, not sure if it'll make it to GoW though. (Of course with GoW collection I & II are out of reach of GoW III, but that's cheating a bit).

Alan Wake is mere weeks from 750K, which I think given it's less than amazing start is a pretty good outcome. It really benefitted from the 360s launch, much more so than a lot of other games that have a much higher LTD.

LIES! You are going to play it on the PC, I have forseen it. You are going to have a new PC by the end of the year and on that PC is going to be Mass Effect 1 and 2. You will purchase these for less than $30 U.S. and that and other savings will justfy the uberness of your custom built PC.

On that PC will also be Civilization 5 because I order it.

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Barozi on 17 September 2010
Antabus said:
Metallicube said:
thx1139 said:
Metallicube said:

I don't get why everybody raves about Reach and GT5 pushing HD consoles then act like somehow Wii is impervious to hardware movers..

 

Because we are talking them bumping the console a couple of hundred thousand. That isnt enough to change the trajectory.  As someone else said in a couple of weeks the Halo Reach bump will be basically over. 

A good quality lineup with additions throughout the year maintains sales.  It also gets back to last year.  Wii sales jumped when the price dropped, but the Nintendo fans say it was because of NSMBWii which came nearly 2 months later.  If Nintendo doesnt drop the price this year you will see.  And what you will see will be pretty standard climb to holiday levels in November and December.

NSMB Wii has sold 15 million, and is still hovering around the top 10 charts nearly a year later. That is what I call the ULTIMATE hardware mover. To claim that somehow a $50 price cut had more of an effect on the hardware than the most popular franchise of all time is pretty laughable. In essence, if NSMB Wii is NOT a hardware mover, then no game is.

Remember in Japan Wii sales barely rose when it had its price cut. Only after NSMB Wii did sales really take off. The game single handedly sold out Wiis nearly worldwide after the console was recently in pretty steep decline.

Duh, the game released december in Japan. And in late november elsewhere. The game did not boost the hw as much as the pricecut and the holiday season did. But you can keep on hoping that a donkey kong game will boost HW.

Unless the game releases on late  november once again, then you can keep claiming that it actually did boost HW. But hey, I think you said it yourself. Wii gets more holiday boost than other consoles because of the parent who want to buy the kid friendliest console as a present.

yep I checked the charts again and when the Wii price cut hit the sales suddenly went up 124% and even improves EVERY week in October. 300k - 400k every week and the holiday season baaaarely started. Then the holidays really started and the Wii picked up even more and that had absolutely nothing to do with NSMB Wii.

Then Mario kicks in Europe and America and bumps the hardware up another 34%. PS3 and 360 dropped, but hadn't Modern Warfare 2 been released 1 week earlier the sales of the HD consoles would have gathered plus 10% with ease.

During December it could have pushed some hardware, yes but overall hardly more than 1 million units.

Which is of course very good, but not even close what the price cut did to improve the sales.



*Sound Of Rain on 17 September 2010

Sales by the end of 2010:

Wii: 85 Million

360: 49 Million

P.S.3: 44 Million



Antabus on 17 September 2010
Barozi said:
Antabus said:
Metallicube said:
thx1139 said:
Metallicube said:

I don't get why everybody raves about Reach and GT5 pushing HD consoles then act like somehow Wii is impervious to hardware movers..

 

Because we are talking them bumping the console a couple of hundred thousand. That isnt enough to change the trajectory.  As someone else said in a couple of weeks the Halo Reach bump will be basically over. 

A good quality lineup with additions throughout the year maintains sales.  It also gets back to last year.  Wii sales jumped when the price dropped, but the Nintendo fans say it was because of NSMBWii which came nearly 2 months later.  If Nintendo doesnt drop the price this year you will see.  And what you will see will be pretty standard climb to holiday levels in November and December.

NSMB Wii has sold 15 million, and is still hovering around the top 10 charts nearly a year later. That is what I call the ULTIMATE hardware mover. To claim that somehow a $50 price cut had more of an effect on the hardware than the most popular franchise of all time is pretty laughable. In essence, if NSMB Wii is NOT a hardware mover, then no game is.

Remember in Japan Wii sales barely rose when it had its price cut. Only after NSMB Wii did sales really take off. The game single handedly sold out Wiis nearly worldwide after the console was recently in pretty steep decline.

Duh, the game released december in Japan. And in late november elsewhere. The game did not boost the hw as much as the pricecut and the holiday season did. But you can keep on hoping that a donkey kong game will boost HW.

Unless the game releases on late  november once again, then you can keep claiming that it actually did boost HW. But hey, I think you said it yourself. Wii gets more holiday boost than other consoles because of the parent who want to buy the kid friendliest console as a present.

yep I checked the charts again and when the Wii price cut hit the sales suddenly went up 124% and even improves EVERY week in October. 300k - 400k every week and the holiday season baaaarely started. Then the holidays really started and the Wii picked up even more and that had absolutely nothing to do with NSMB Wii.

Then Mario kicks in Europe and America and bumps the hardware up another 34%. PS3 and 360 dropped, but hadn't Modern Warfare 2 been released 1 week earlier the sales of the HD consoles would have gathered plus 10% with ease.

During December it could have pushed some hardware, yes but overall hardly more than 1 million units.

Which is of course very good, but not even close what the price cut did to improve the sales.


I would not say absolutely nothing, of course the game sold some hw. But not the way some people say...