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Mr Puggsly on 15 September 2010
SecondWar said:

This severely reduces the value of the limited edition Reach console. Though seeing as I hardly ever do co=op it doesnt bother me anyway (not that I have the limited edition console anyway)

But doesn't the Reach console have a hard drive?

If anything... that would increase the value.



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Reasonable on 15 September 2010

While the entry model analogy with cars is fair I don't like the idea of the concept creeping into consoles.  "oh, you need the more expensive version to play this popular game" - isn't something I ever wanted to experience with videogames.  Really, this gen has seen a lot of stuff that from a consumer perspective I dislike, such as overpriced DLC and some ridiculous timed exclusives and content.

Still, I also doubt it's any kind of conspiracy on MS - clearly for some engine related reason that mode needs more cache than the 4GB can allocate, which is a pity but I doubt something deliberately coded for.

Thankfully this only happens to a few titles, pity one of them is the platforms Marquee title.

EDIT: edit - given it's just one, less popular mode it's not huge either, just unwlecome in this particular title.



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Mr Puggsly on 15 September 2010
Reasonable said:

"oh, you need the more expensive version to play this popular game"

No, you need a hard drive just for an online co-op feature.

People act like this game is crippled without it.



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miz1q2w3e on 15 September 2010
Mr Puggsly said:

I think the people most bothered by this... don't have a 360.

If it was multiplayer all together that would be a huge problem. But just the campaign? I could care less.

omg you're so right rofl XD

and honestly it's not that different from a game that needs the balance board for some stuff - - I missed out on some parts of Rabbids TV party cuz i didn't have one

Question: Did Halo 3:ODST need a HDD for coop? like did it work on arcades?

PS: "a huge chunk of the game’s functionality missing" - thread makes the issue seem way intense!



Severance on 15 September 2010

did anyone actually buy the crappy 4GB 360 ? if so , i pity da foo!



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Zkuq on 15 September 2010

I don't know about you guys but I would be pretty pissed off if I missed a great feature for no apparently good reason. 4GB should definitely be enough, and if older models with less storage space can handle the game, I really wonder what's wrong.

That said, it's not by problem. I don't own a 360 and I've never had much interest for Halo. But a funny case nevertheless, if a little stupid.



libellule on 15 September 2010
Muffin31190 said:

OMG really u make a game for ur system and u cant even play it with ur friends ... that is Just Stupid, why would microsoft do this to one of there biggest multiplayer games?

because if the problem is unknow then there is no problem

it is like RRoD : if you already bought the console, then YOU are fucked but, what matters, is that your money is on MS wallet ... so no problem for MS

what matters is MS, not you.

How many Arcade user are aware of this problem ? not many ==> so no problem !



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Doobie_wop on 15 September 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
Cthulhu said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I think the people most bothered by this... don't have a 360.

If it was multiplayer all together that would be a huge problem. But just the campaign? I could care less.


Dont get defensive. And yes maybe you dont care, others do

I surely dont care, I was reading the thread as I'm reading the morning news everyday..But I had to reply to your defensive comment. You work for MS or something?

No, I'm just pointing out Sony fans (and maybe some Nintendo fans?) are using this as fodder for something to mock the 360.

Read through this thread. Sony fans seem to be the ones really upset by this.

That's because most 360 fans would rather die than admit that Bungie or Microsoft did something stupid. It's an issue and I'm betting that all those casual gamers who bought the cheapest system on offer to play Halo aren't going to be happy when they find out they aren't getting a feature that everyone else is getting.



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pariz on 15 September 2010
Acevil said:
disolitude said:

lol...kinda funny. ITs cheaper to buy the fat 360 than HD for the slim...

But hey...you don't buy a base model car and then complain its missing air conditioning and automatic transmission right? :)

I couldn't imagine a car without Air Conditioning and Automatic Transmission in this day and age even for the crappiest new car in western society. 

(if that was the joke, I am sorry for not being that much of car guy to understand it)

Off topic, I know, but Automatic Transmission is not that popular in all of western society. In the USA, conceed, don't know about Canada. In most of european contries it should be around 50% - 50% and in latin america is by no means popular at all.
Personally, I rather have control of my gear.



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Squilliam on 15 September 2010
Reasonable said:

While the entry model analogy with cars is fair I don't like the idea of the concept creeping into consoles.  "oh, you need the more expensive version to play this popular game" - isn't something I ever wanted to experience with videogames.  Really, this gen has seen a lot of stuff that from a consumer perspective I dislike, such as overpriced DLC and some ridiculous timed exclusives and content.

Still, I also doubt it's any kind of conspiracy on MS - clearly for some engine related reason that mode needs more cache than the 4GB can allocate, which is a pity but I doubt something deliberately coded for.

Thankfully this only happens to a few titles, pity one of them is the platforms Marquee title.

EDIT: edit - given it's just one, less popular mode it's not huge either, just unwlecome in this particular title.

This concept already crept in with the PS1 memory card. Sure the console could be played without it and to all it did was allow you to access the save feature in most titles. Im sure you could probably come up with an even earlier example, this is hardly new for consoles and has existed since before Microsoft made the Xbox.



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