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im_sneaky said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

It does look closer to a portable Wii than a portable Gamecube.

And it really does show that Sony and Microsoft jumped the gun, as Nintendo is getting tech more like theirs, but will make money off it (as the next home system is likely to have specs like the HD systems), while the 3DS clearly outclasses the PSP by leaps (perhaps not by bounds as well), and has a screen with only slightly less resolution, and in 3D, in addition to the second touch screen.


So first gen 3DS games look like they will be significantly better than PSP.

I don't know how you can say its closer to Wii than gamecube, its like saying its a number closer to pi than 3.

People underestimate the power of the Wii compared to the GameCube. Basically, all the 6th gen consoles were 2, and Sony and Microsoft went to 4, but Nintendo only went to 3. That's still a whole number up, but its as close to the old as it is to the new. As it is, The 3DS looks 2.5ish.



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If this is how the 3DS looks I can't even imagine how the PSP2 will look like. O.O



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This thing better have TV out. I want to see these nice graphics on a big screen tv, and then see whats what...

I know it won't... but it better!



looks damn nice. will get this game for sure.  :)



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Salnax said:

People underestimate the power of the Wii compared to the GameCube. Basically, all the 6th gen consoles were 2, and Sony and Microsoft went to 4, but Nintendo only went to 3. That's still a whole number up, but its as close to the old as it is to the new. As it is, The 3DS looks 2.5ish.


Performance isn't a number from 1-10.



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disolitude said:

This thing better have TV out. I want to see these nice graphics on a big screen tv, and then see whats what...

I know it won't... but it better!

It would probably look like vomit on a big screen TV, the 3DS outputs at 400x240 :p



Squilliam said:
Salnax said:

People underestimate the power of the Wii compared to the GameCube. Basically, all the 6th gen consoles were 2, and Sony and Microsoft went to 4, but Nintendo only went to 3. That's still a whole number up, but its as close to the old as it is to the new. As it is, The 3DS looks 2.5ish.


Performance isn't a number from 1-10.

Thats what she said!

 

Sorry I had to do it..lol

 

3DS specs will more than likely be 1.5-2.5X of what the psp is...ignore resoultion..im just talking about pure grphx/cpu powerz.

Thou did any of you see the Monster hunter portable 3rd trailer? I feel it reaaly shows off the best of what the psp can do and well...toss that vs the ss shots here and the 3ds seems very beastly..

 

I don not see a psp2 coming 2011....not when a new full major MH title is slated 2011 for psp...not to mention god eater burst and lord of arcania...earlyieeeest im guessin...2012 E3...and bam new psp2..but ninty with 1-2 year head start..oh and bet ur butt...psp2 will have 3d..god willing...cell based psp to stop pirating from killing off a great platform...oh and it better have something like psn/live..gta/fps w/e would own on a 3/4g/wifi network...fug id pay 20$ a month for that.

 

 

And sorry I know a good bit is off topic but...well...theres soo few threads and I'd really not want to make a thread to hear*see* myself type...alone.



miz1q2w3e said:
disolitude said:

This thing better have TV out. I want to see these nice graphics on a big screen tv, and then see whats what...

I know it won't... but it better!

It would probably look like vomit on a big screen TV, the 3DS outputs at 400x240 :p


thats a ds...have you seen how the psp looks on a big screen?  sure they keep aspct rtio etc but seeing how 3ds is so far...maybe true 800 x 600 - 3d etc? 3ds just seems atm like it can do alot.



DarkisWR said:
miz1q2w3e said:
disolitude said:

This thing better have TV out. I want to see these nice graphics on a big screen tv, and then see whats what...

I know it won't... but it better!

It would probably look like vomit on a big screen TV, the 3DS outputs at 400x240 :p


thats a ds...have you seen how the psp looks on a big screen?  sure they keep aspct rtio etc but seeing how 3ds is so far...maybe true 800 x 600 - 3d etc? 3ds just seems atm like it can do alot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DS - - - check the chart

DS was 256×192



ghost_of_fazz said:

So that damn little thing is going to be more advanced than the Wii? Wow...


No. What you see are the benefit's of using graphical effect features. It allows for lower polycounts to look extremely good. The wii pushes ton's more polycounts. So why does DS game effects allow the graphics look close to the Wii? Well...

using processing effects allow for better colour blending and different styles of colour blending. When rendering an image with no processing effects you are given raw images stretched over the model face. So the graphics are only as good as the texture and the lighting effect on the texture.

When you start blending, shading, colouring that modify the rendered textures multiple visual effects occur. Textures look better and more rich. Poly faces look more rounded than blocky.

The reason why this absurd idea that 3DS has close to Wii graphics is a misinterpretation of games and lazy ass developers. The Wii uses a seperate Chip than the GPU called TEV. The TEV does all the advanced techniques. The problem is that the TEV requires skill to use. I would say that 99% of games done on the WII and GC have never used the TEV.

The benefit of the 3DS is that the graphical features are classic design. They aren't anything special or unique that will required developers to learn. So it's easier and more worth it to developers to use the 3DS graphical effect features. While at the same time neglecting that the Wii could do the exact same things.

 



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