On topic...this is about Kinect Sports. And I agree, this game looks like good fun with the fam. And good fun with the fam over Xbox Live.

I doubt it's going to be the greatest motion party game ever when it only supports 2 players. 2 players isn't much of a party.

There we have it.  The biggest piece of the puzzle that nobody wants to talk about.   And Microsoft certainly won't advertise.  This is by far the biggest problem with Kinect.   I think it will have it's own niche in the fitness / dance department but I still don't believe it can appeal to a massive amount of casuals because of this lack of serious multi-player.    The move actually will suffer from this a bit as well butnot as severely.    As I feel like the only true games that will come for Kinect are these casual / fitness / dance type of games. 

Well I have definitely seen games that make better use of the technology than that pile of crap. So have you, which is why you specifically chose it.

This wouldn't have gotten blown out of proportion if your obvious bias against the Kinect didn't come out.

Well its a trade off. Full body support for 2 players vs 4 player games that only follow your hands. And let me tell ya, it ain't no party when you don't have enough Move/Wiimotes for 4 players or your batties die.

Pick your poison.

I agree but it's a pretty large trade-off in my opinion.  It's actually one of the biggest mis-steps I believe Sony has made in regards to the direction of the PS3 as it pertains to sales in North America.  I think Sony would be wise to invest in more 4 player games.  4 player off-line, 4 player co-op, 2 player co-op, etc.   

Their current landscape has produced the most technically advanced games on the market but the lack of games they have without a valuable multi-player is what holds them back (Or held them back initially as they are actually drastically improving).   Kinect is walking down this same path as far as I'm concerned. 

It's already a device that seems like it will most likely be limited without hearing about the player limit / sitting-standing issue/ etc.   I don't know about you but a two player track and field event just doesn't sound like that much fun to me? Now 4 players?  Now you have a serious race filled with fun and crazyness.  

The other issue that I see with it is TV size / space requirements.  It's naturally going to require a large TV even for two players.  I can't imagine playing many full throttle Kinect games two player on a TV any smaller than 40 - 46 inches. 

When I was a kid we used to play the NES power pad with only two racers and it was a fucking blast I tells ya!!!

The player limit isn't a big deal for me. Most living rooms don't even have the space for 4 people to jump around and dance. It doesn't have x-ray vision, people need to be side by side. Maybe down the road we'll be able to connect two Kinect units to a single console!

The device seems to work while sitting and crouching. There have been articles about it working while sitting down. It even appears to recognize people laying on the ground. so I'm not sure what that talk is about.

All of the games I've seen for it suck (imo) as far as a technological and "fun" level go.

Bias implies prejudice and I am not prejudiced against anything here. I really haven't seen anything good for it. If you have seen something that people like me would actually want to spend time and money on, I'm open to education.

I watched the Forza demo which honestly felt like half a game because you can't even accelerate.What's the point.

I saw that Harry Potter hogwash.

I stomached the video for Kinect Adventures, which had people move uncomfortably to dodge obstacles while standing still on a platform.

I've seen actual gameplay for the sports compilation, where football is just a choice of kicking left, right or forward and the race is all about running in place like a baffoon and jumping 10 feet before the hurdle because the camera needs a second to pick it up.

I've seen plenty and none of it has been anything more than mediocre.

Very few games are designed to work well as 4 player games, but those that were really work best as party games.

But saying that a 2 player cap for Kinect is somehow an advantage so you don't have to buy/own a bigger HDTV that 3 or 4 people can see at once or buy more than 2 controllers is just ridiculous. It's a limitation when designing multiplayer games and it's a limitation if players want a 4 player party game and there is absolutely no positive way to spin that.

That commercial was awful and will not attract casuals. Or anyone else for that matter. The presentation of gameplay was awkward, the music sucked and those avatars look hideous.