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Euphoria14 on 08 September 2010
Doobie_wop said:
Euphoria14 said:
Gilgamesh said:
Euphoria14 said:

Unless you own stock I don't see why anyone would care. This doesn't effect any of us at all.

 

For all you know this could help increase sales.


But will decrease software sales, one of Sony's biggest things going for them.

You have proof that piracy affects software sales as much as people here seem to think?

Wii seems to sell fine, as does the 360 and those both have been pirated since the beginning. Wii for example was hacked within it's first week.

It also depends on the audience that is willing to hack a console and then you have to identify what games they would most likely own. The majority of the Wii audience is casual, so they don't know anything about console mods and they only buy specific games for their system. The Wii games that pirates would most likely play are the same games that bombed (Red Steel 2, NMH, Madworld).The majority of the 360 audience play's online and so aren't willing to hack their console because then they lose the feature they use the most. 

The PS3 is owned by mostly 25 to 35 year olds who would more likely know about things like mods and how to implement them, they don't play online as religiously as their 360 counterparts do and they probably know more about the releases outside of COD, Halo, GTA and Gran Turismo. These are the people who would mod their console, people who have spent alot of money on a high end device that have all these media capabilities that they know how to take advantage of.

I'm not a stockholder, but I do care about my favourite games. If a new IP comes out and it bombs despite being reviewed very well, then pirates would partly be to blame. That means that one of my favourite developers could go under, a sequel for the game can never be released and I'm left disappointed. 

360's online excuse works for PS3 as well. 

I just think that the whole argument that piracy is the blame for low software sales is complete bull, especially with home consoles. Piracy is, I believe, more prevalent in the handheld gaming market.

It is what hurts PSP and the Android marketplace. I won't lie, it is part of the reason I got a Samsung Captivate instead of an iPhone.

 

Some analyst now believe that online gaming is partly to blame since many people will grab just one title and play that for majority of their gaming time. Games like MW2 or Halo for example.

 

Also, even though many refuse to believe it, many titles that people pirate are titles they would not have purchased in the first place, whether it be due to disinterest or lack of funds. This is a good chunk of the piracy scene that acts in this way and it is why (1) pirated title =/= (1) lost sale, regardless of what anyone here tries to say.

That logic doesn't explain why services like Steam, iTunes, etc... flourish. It is like  testing before you buy, if you will. 



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ameratsu on 08 September 2010

I don't see the big deal. If this is what homebrew enthusiasts are after, cool have at it. It's their hardware. They're free to use it in whatever fashion they see fit. At the same time, it makes sense that Sony wants to take measures to prevent software piracy. They have been pretty strict so far which I don't hold against them, but the removal of features like Other OS in the name of piracy prevention is going too far.

Users on these forums cheerleading Sony locking down and reducing what people can do with their hardware do so because they are fanboys/girls, plain and simple. 



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PootyMack on 09 September 2010

I would be happy if Sony would fix their own bugs as fast as they fixed this. PSN still sux, game load times are a joke, and it takes entirely too long to load updates and install psn games to hdd.
Sony always has and still will only respond if it directly interferes with their money.

I really wanted this for homebrew, if they're gonna block it fine, but they should implement something like it themselves. That would slow down hackers dramatically.



Aprisaiden on 09 September 2010

@Euphoria14 -- If pirates really wanted to sample games before they bought them then they could of played a demo or rented the game. It is really a bad excuse that pirates use to justify them stealing games.

 I am Also happy that SONY has patches the security flaw in there system. SONY gave the homebrew community plenty of opportunities to create homebrew applications on linux -- but instead people searched for a way to pirate PS3 games, they got close so we lost the Other OS feature. Then they found a security loop hole, and the first thing they did was try to play pirated copys of games, then sell it.



Attoyou on 09 September 2010

Good for Sony! but its only a matter of time Before The Pirates strike Back.



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Gilgamesh on 09 September 2010
Euphoria14 said:
Gilgamesh said:
Euphoria14 said:

Unless you own stock I don't see why anyone would care. This doesn't effect any of us at all.

 

For all you know this could help increase sales.


But will decrease software sales, one of Sony's biggest things going for them.

You have proof that piracy affects software sales as much as people here seem to think?

Wii seems to sell fine, as does the 360 and those both have been pirated since the beginning. Wii for example was hacked within it's first week.


Well the PS3 sells on par with the Wii and x360, even in America where the PS3 is outsold by the X360 by 10 million and Wii by 20 million yet its really not that far away from the competition, and worldwide software the PS3 is always close to the Wii and X360. That's gotta say something for a 3rd place console that's never had a hack last. We've also seen the numbers from X360 illegal downloads, which go into the millions for some games, same for the Wii.



jarrod on 12 September 2010

Yes.  Now Wii's the only console you'll ever be able to play Tales of Graces in english on. :P

Hacking = / = Piracy



TheFlyingDutchman on 12 September 2010
axumblade said:
Gilgamesh said:

Yes

Sony: 1 Filthy pirates: 3


Sounds a bit more accurate considering the PS1, PS2 and PSP have all been hacked iirc. :P

If you want to be even more accurate;

Sony: 7  Filthy Pirates: 2

Explaining the 7 points for Sony: PSPGO 1 point, PS3 4 years unhacked 4 points, PS3 cleared of hacks again 2 points.

Explaning the 2 points for the Filthy Pirates: hacking old stuff 3 points, hacking PS3 2 points, no more working hack on PS3 -3 points.



scottie on 12 September 2010
Euphoria14 said:

Unless you own stock I don't see why anyone would care. This doesn't effect any of us at all.

 

For all you know this could help increase sales.

 

Sega called, they would like their significant share of the console market back :P



Zkuq on 12 September 2010
TheFlyingDutchman said:
axumblade said:
Gilgamesh said:

Yes

Sony: 1 Filthy pirates: 3


Sounds a bit more accurate considering the PS1, PS2 and PSP have all been hacked iirc. :P

If you want to be even more accurate;

Sony: 7  Filthy Pirates: 2

Explaining the 7 points for Sony: PSPGO 1 point, PS3 4 years unhacked 4 points, PS3 cleared of hacks again 2 points.

Explaning the 2 points for the Filthy Pirates: hacking old stuff 3 points, hacking PS3 2 points, no more working hack on PS3 -3 points.

Hey, I can pull numbers out of nowhere too! I can determine the exact value for all things they've done. I can also deduct points from the other side for something the other one did! Look!

Sony: -6, Filthy pirates: 6

Sony: PSPgo (1), complete failure with all other products (-4), blocking the new PS3 hack (1), having PS3 hacked for a while (-2), revoving Other OS feature from PS3 (-2)

Filthy pirates: hacking stuff that wasn't old stuff when it was hacked (4), hacking PS3 (2)