True he says that it is dead, I must of forgotten about this exchange between you and him, even though I read it all. However, would you disagree with the statement that "PC gaming is not what it used to be and publishers are not making as many good games for it as in the past."?

Wow you are famous! I want to be on Malstrom too.

Haha I love the predictions of long ago....so much fail in them

I'm glad people are starting to see Malstrom for what he is; a young, arrogant wannabe who has read a book on Blue Ocean strategy by his idol. He's one of those guys who will never in a million years admit that he's wrong on something, he'll simply move on and pretend it didn't happen, not unlike a few outspoken members we used to have here before.

IMVHO it's a cycle that always happens and happened in the past too (some masterpieces saved PC from the dull and on-rails gameplay hell of FMVs, for example) , and although it's true that some big producers are snubbing PC a little, and that shovelware is hitting hard PC too, it's also true that thanks to its absence of ties and license fees, PC is always the cradle of a lot of independent developers. This gen is going to become the strongest selling ever for consoles and it will remains so until a successive one will exceed its size, and it follows the strongest single console domination ever, while Vista damaged a lot gaming on PC, it's quite normal that in this period console gaming be particularly strong compared to PC, but PC is far from being dead, as its freedom grants it a flow of new energies.

To cut it short, I agree that there are problems, but defining it dead and rotting is the same old Malstrom exaggeration (that elsewhere he himself strongly resizes).

BTW both on consoles and PC, the sales of classics in budget editions keep on bringing royalties, although smaller than when they were full priced, will developers and publishers ever get the message gamers are sending them? I really hope so.

LOL! Thinking about it I should gloat more than when I upgraded to the big plantation in FarmVille (but less than when I realized I managed to stop playing it cold turkey without even noticing it  ).

Oh dear me. Thats more steaming than usual, maybe the recent sales numbers ARE getting to him. The Wii is flat relative to itself but its declining relative to the sales of the other consoles. If he ever ventured here and looked at the front page he would see the reality of the market at present.

So much for the Xbox 360 and PS3's relative declines. If talking about the Xbox 360 market, the 360 in the U.S.A. has had a 25% and 33% decline in sale price over 4.5 years whereas the Wii has had a 20% decline in price over 3.5 years. Thats actually kinda comparable really. Overall the average sale price for the current generation consoles is significantly higher than it was last generation. IIRC the Xbox 360 was $199 within about a year of release for the HDD model, and the current 360 is still $150 more expensive at a comparable point in its life-cycle.

I can't see any implosions where im sitting. Funnily enough the Xbox 360 and PS3 are both experiencing stronger demand than they did when they launched. They'll probably go back into decline in 2011, that much is certain. Overall it certainly gives all the console makers a much more equal chance of being on top next generation than any console generation preceding. If this console generations competition is vicious, then the next generation could be unfathomable.

With at least a $50 cut for both of the HD consoles in the cards for next year I just can't see either of them being down by a whole lot, especially with them starting the year riding the momentum from Kinect in Americas and GT5/Move in EMEAA. Probably not enough to keep them up YOY but not a big drop off. Maybe even up by a fair bit if it's a $100 cut. Although there is a bit of danger in that for MS since $100 is usually the 'Jump the Shark' price.

Hmm, you might be right. I just like to play it conservative really, nothing against the sales potential of the systems. Its the whole Move/Kinect problem, its sort of something which I cannot see past in terms of predicting the future. Once both Kinect and Move are out and I can judge the market response respectively, I can then start making better predictions. At the moment my certainty is based off a baseline assumption that both Kinect and Move will do little more than prep the market for the next generation consoles and their respective interfaces. The hype is just too tiring to really do anything else, even though im sure the assumption is wrong.

yes ive been around awhile, this was one of the first threads i commented on, can not remember what finally made me get an account, it was either a controller vs mouse thread or a mac bashing thread

got a few good quotes in there, i miss a lot of old posters form it. there was one form HUS in there, that seemed almost was to reasonable to be him... well his late 08-early 09 form


i lurked for about 7-9 months before joining,

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