yes i remeber that, and when the how many will it sell threads when it hit 20 million, most people were saying no way would it sell more then 40/45 ah the old days

see this thread to relive them http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=5338

hope i dont get it closed

Japan has ranked third in most important regions worldwide. Americas is the most important region because of it being the largest market and right behind that is Europe/PAL. I doubt the Japanease market will ever be what it once was anytime soon.

Your funny. You should be a comedian!  Not happening pal...keep dreaming.  X360 is becoming pretty steady right now so unless u love the sarcasm u might want to consider a new profession.

Oh I do agree with that.  I'd note the 360 got good spikes when it received decent jRPGs as exclusives.  The issue was, in my view, that too many turned out to be timed, and once the market realised that the game was up and the 360 lost those spikes.

TBH MS I think MS would need to put in a effort so costly to get anywhere in Japan, at least for the foreseeable future, that I can't see them bothering.  I believe MS would need to both invest heavily in expensive 'denial of service' tactics (which I don't actually approve of but recognise are used in the market) to keep as many games off Sony/Nintendo consoels as possible - essentially they'd need to buy out the titles as exclusives by paying the developer enough to cover expected sales on other consoles (thinking paying SE to make a FF game 360 exclusive and paying them to cover the likely lost 4M sales on PS3), as well as investing heavily in a lot of new IP and exclusives like Blue Dragon.

Even then, they'd be forcing the market to their console, which would only work short term.  Nobody likes being forced to buy something because they have no choice if they want certain games - which is why the market didn't take to the timed exclusive approach IMHO - and likely MS would lose the market again when Sony and Nintendo released their own titles and IP through their own, much stronger development capability than MS.

TBH, when I think about MS in Japan, whichever way I think about it, I can only see them coming in last place.  It can be a horrible last place like the Xbox, or an okayish last place like the 360, but I think it's always going to be last.  Given the sales outside Japan I expect MS to aim for decent 360 level sales in the region but focus their efforts (and money) more on US and the rest of the world and see if success there can stimulate more interest in Japan than trying to win locally on their own merits.

What I don't get is how people call connect a Montion Controller as far as I can see it's about as far away from what the Wii does as you can get when it comes to NUI.   As for sales this holiday... it's to hard to predict because this generation seems to buck so many different trends

Oh you were around back then? That was funny.

"Currently the worst case scenario for both is sales stagnating, 3rd party support abandoning ship, and ending up with a user base of 20-30M. I'm fairly certain that one of the big boys is not going to beat 30M units sold."

"The PS3 will surpass the 360 at the end of 2008 in my opinion."

"I think we will see the ps3 taking 2nd in 2008"

"I think the PS3 is gonna fly right past the 360."

"The xbox only has one more big boom left for them (halo 3) as they reach the limits of their console"

"3 years lol there might not be a 360 anymore, MS is more then willing to kill their product and start fresh with a new one."

"360 is heading down and nothing can stop that. As soon as mid 08 or late xmas 08 360 is in 3rd place."

"I think price drop GT5 = in July 2008 PS3 will be 2nd."

"PS3 passes the 360 by the end of 08 worldwide is my prediction. If it doesn't happen by then, then the months following the release of FF XIII."

"with the the guaranteed triple-threat of MGS4, Killzone 2, and GTA IV early-mid next year, you'll see sales sky-rocket."

"Their is IMO no way the 360 can stay ahead of the PS3 all of next year [2008]."

"Late 2010 the new XBox could arrive - with Halo 4 and Gears of War 3 as launch titles."

"Microsoft releases their next system late 2010. There will be no comparison between the logevity of the 360 and that of the PS3."

"by late 2010 to early 2011 like most people said, xbox 720 will already be out."

You could add some of those to my thread. Just to remind us how difficult it is to predict things.

thats because of the slim effect. and no its not in trouble its selling like the wii which is great.

Somebody kinda got that one right .. ish :D

I like these sales. A lot :)