All of this over a community centre, not a mosque but a community centre that's 2 blocks away from Ground Zero that just happens to have a mosque in it.....

I hate humanity.

That was odd...I was thinking the same thing...

Just curious... how would you feel about a giant evangical church being built right next to an abortion clinic that was burned to the ground?

It had nothing to do with an "campaign of intimidiation."   It's a campaign of common sense.

They have the right to build a 15 story community center, but it's a douchebag thing to do.  You literally can't miss the new building where the WTC subway is.   It'd be the equivlent of building a church right next to like, every abortion clinic every bombed, when you consider the size of it... and the fact that people want to pay their respects there.

As for this event... I would be surprised if this didn't happen every week... and also in churches and synagouges.

I mean drunk people acting dumb and urinating on stuff?

Regardless of what others say, this is directly related to the idiotic right-wing initiated Mosque in NYC conflict. This raises tensions of people who inevitiable beleive the bullshit spouted about that Mosque and then do actions that range from mild (this) to major (cabbie attack) or even worse. How soon until there is a Mosque burned or bombed during Friday prayers?

You keep using that example and I see nothing wrong with it. I'm atheist so I'm opposed to a church (or mosque/synagogue) being built anywhere. But unless you can prove that the people building the church bombed the abortion clinic you are just punishing a group of people because they have an association to a couple of extreme criminals.

I honestly don't know why the debate continues to rage because there are no plans to stop the community center from being built and it is privately owned.

It comes down to this simple question: Is it okay for a church or other religious temple to be built 2 blocks away from Ground Zero?  If yes, then a mosque is okay too.

OT: Yeah the media is totally blowing things out of proportion and will only cause things to get worse.

And by building it... you are punishing the people who's family died in that clinic because you wanted a church right there.

This has NOTHING to do with legal rights.

It has everythign to do with responsibility.

It's extremely irresponsible and insensitive for them to build the mosque there... and people are upset because of it.  Not a big surprise.

They have just as much legal right as any other religion.  The point is... it's insensitve.

The debate continues soley because one group wants to lable the other as "islamaphobic."  When in reality they have some real valid issues that nobody wants to debate.

The mosque is built. People boo hoo and cry about it for a few years. Then it is forgotten and people move on.

That's the problem with this country, people are to damn sensitive. Did you know that some people who had family die on 9/11 are for this mosque?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38845748/ns/us_news-life

BTW, in your example about the cabbie that was attacked...

The cabbie was opposed to the building of the mosque near ground zero and the attacker was part of a group that was supporting the building of the mosque.

Truth is stranger then fiction.

Oh, and when you put some drunk idiot urinating in a mosque and shooting his racist mouth off on the same level as those who kill innocent people by blowing themselves up and flying planes into buildings,  then the world really has lost it's mind.

In my mind, these folks who claim to be Christians and are doing these things are starting to become as extremist as the KKK. Obviously not the KKK of 60 years ago, but extremist enough with their closed-minded attitudes.

Things seem to be getting worse...