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superchunk on 24 August 2010
darkknightkryta said:
joeorc said:

it is a fact that the Wii is quite more robust in it's hardware over the game cube..

and no it's not

(2) game cubes duct taped together..that is lame

the real point is even though the Wii is quite more powerful than the Game cube the developer's are not taking advantage of that extra power. Hell even Nintendo it seem's is in no hurry to push the system. which is ok, that the games are fun anyway. but on the same token at least give it a go and try to pust the envelope with the graphic's on the Wii. it would be kind of nice to see that once in a while.

The Wii is about as powerful as the first X-Box, the problem is that they didn't update the shader technology in the GPU so no matter what Nintendo or anyone for that matter does games won't look better than Gamecube games cause they can't make use of the lighting and normal maps that make 360/PS3 games look as good as they do.  Texture work and lighting will be same in the Wii as it was on the Gamecube best they can do is make bigger levels and use more higher res textures.

wow. You are so wrong. Wii > xbox > gcn > ps2. Numbers don't tell whole story, the CPU, Memory, and GPU are all better than what was in the xbox.

Metroid Prime 3 looks distinctively better than 1 or 2.

SMG1 and 2 looks distinctively better than anything on GCN.

Conduit (as will part 2) does many features that were not capable on GCN.

NSMBWii would not be possible on the GCN. (as two players maybe, not 4 and not with the super guide feature)

There are no games on xbox that couldn't have been done with same exact feature set on Wii. Wii could even do 720p if Nintendo had wanted, they chose not to in order to free up power for the game vs the HD pixels.



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Rhonin the wizard on 24 August 2010
Carl2291 said:
Rhonin the wizard said:
Carl2291 said:
Rhonin the wizard said:
Carl2291 said:

Yeah anyway.

Somebody post screens of the 2 consoles best looking games.

 

Should be enough to put this thread, and these claims... To rest. Again.

Wouldn't videos work better?

I'm still waiting for those Nintendo-quality games that Ubisoft promised.

If you want. The SMS/SMG2 shots worked perfectly though.

And define "Nintendo Quality".

You'll have to ask the Ubisoft rep that made the comment, not the one discussed in this thread, basically he said that Ubisoft will be bringing Nintendo quality games to the Wii.

Well if it's you who's still "waiting" for the games, then you surely must have your own personal benchmark of Nintendo quality. Yes?

Really it was more of a jab at Ubisoft excs and their statements. But I'd define Nintendo quality games as games that are very polished, attention to details, proper beta testing, are replayable, most games after I finish them I have no desire to play them again, and most are easy to learn, hard to master.



Mr Khan on 24 August 2010
joeorc said:
Mr Khan said:

I seriously facepalmed upon reading this. Was this comment simply trapped in a time vortex and has originally come from 2007?

 

And i do like that everyone still seems to think that Microsoft and Sony are going to be able to hold out much longer than Nintendo. None of them are getting past 2012, not a one.

im going to hold you to that prediction..so for say 2013 and there is still big support for the system's than what?

are you saying that a new system released also means these current system will not last past 2012 for software support? because if you are i would not take that bet because there are already projects for both Sony and Microsoft for these current systems for 2013! already.

By that i meant that none will last without a successor in place before the end of 2012.

 

Are there projects for 2013? Odd, but i'm still betting their hand will be forced, otherwise next generation is going to be an odd one.



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joeorc on 24 August 2010
darkknightkryta said:
joeorc said:

it is a fact that the Wii is quite more robust in it's hardware over the game cube..

and no it's not

(2) game cubes duct taped together..that is lame

the real point is even though the Wii is quite more powerful than the Game cube the developer's are not taking advantage of that extra power. Hell even Nintendo it seem's is in no hurry to push the system. which is ok, that the games are fun anyway. but on the same token at least give it a go and try to pust the envelope with the graphic's on the Wii. it would be kind of nice to see that once in a while.

The Wii is about as powerful as the first X-Box, the problem is that they didn't update the shader technology in the GPU so no matter what Nintendo or anyone for that matter does games won't look better than Gamecube games cause they can't make use of the lighting and normal maps that make 360/PS3 games look as good as they do.  Texture work and lighting will be same in the Wii as it was on the Gamecube best they can do is make bigger levels and use more higher res textures.

its even more powerful than the first xbox!

"didn't update the shader technology in the GPU so no matter what Nintendo or anyone for that matter does games won't look better than Gamecube games cause they can't make use of the lighting and normal maps that make 360/PS3 games look as good as they do."

that still does not take away the fact that the Wii's Gpu is still more powerful than the first xbox and ps2's gpu!The shader technology upgrade was still better than the first xbox's and the PS2's

which in alrights be able push better graphic's than they are now!

that is why i made the comment, i still think the games are good as they are , but still they could be pushing the Wii more than they are.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

joeorc on 24 August 2010
superchunk said:
darkknightkryta said:
joeorc said:

it is a fact that the Wii is quite more robust in it's hardware over the game cube..

and no it's not

(2) game cubes duct taped together..that is lame

the real point is even though the Wii is quite more powerful than the Game cube the developer's are not taking advantage of that extra power. Hell even Nintendo it seem's is in no hurry to push the system. which is ok, that the games are fun anyway. but on the same token at least give it a go and try to pust the envelope with the graphic's on the Wii. it would be kind of nice to see that once in a while.

The Wii is about as powerful as the first X-Box, the problem is that they didn't update the shader technology in the GPU so no matter what Nintendo or anyone for that matter does games won't look better than Gamecube games cause they can't make use of the lighting and normal maps that make 360/PS3 games look as good as they do.  Texture work and lighting will be same in the Wii as it was on the Gamecube best they can do is make bigger levels and use more higher res textures.

wow. You are so wrong. Wii > xbox > gcn > ps2. Numbers don't tell whole story, the CPU, Memory, and GPU are all better than what was in the xbox.

Metroid Prime 3 looks distinctively better than 1 or 2.

SMG1 and 2 looks distinctively better than anything on GCN.

Conduit (as will part 2) does many features that were not capable on GCN.

NSMBWii would not be possible on the GCN. (as two players maybe, not 4 and not with the super guide feature)

There are no games on xbox that couldn't have been done with same exact feature set on Wii. Wii could even do 720p if Nintendo had wanted, they chose not to in order to free up power for the game vs the HD pixels.

thank you..though the Game cube being more powerful than the PS2 is debatable on what your doing with each machine, in processing power the game cube was if taking just one of the PS2's processors but not both at once. the PS2 also had the faster bus speed. both machines were fantastic no doubt.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

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Pristine20 on 24 August 2010

Lol, they realized this after the "partyz" games stopped selling?



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superchunk on 24 August 2010
joeorc said:
superchunk said:
darkknightkryta said:
joeorc said:

it is a fact that the Wii is quite more robust in it's hardware over the game cube..

and no it's not

(2) game cubes duct taped together..that is lame

the real point is even though the Wii is quite more powerful than the Game cube the developer's are not taking advantage of that extra power. Hell even Nintendo it seem's is in no hurry to push the system. which is ok, that the games are fun anyway. but on the same token at least give it a go and try to pust the envelope with the graphic's on the Wii. it would be kind of nice to see that once in a while.

The Wii is about as powerful as the first X-Box, the problem is that they didn't update the shader technology in the GPU so no matter what Nintendo or anyone for that matter does games won't look better than Gamecube games cause they can't make use of the lighting and normal maps that make 360/PS3 games look as good as they do.  Texture work and lighting will be same in the Wii as it was on the Gamecube best they can do is make bigger levels and use more higher res textures.

wow. You are so wrong. Wii > xbox > gcn > ps2. Numbers don't tell whole story, the CPU, Memory, and GPU are all better than what was in the xbox.

Metroid Prime 3 looks distinctively better than 1 or 2.

SMG1 and 2 looks distinctively better than anything on GCN.

Conduit (as will part 2) does many features that were not capable on GCN.

NSMBWii would not be possible on the GCN. (as two players maybe, not 4 and not with the super guide feature)

There are no games on xbox that couldn't have been done with same exact feature set on Wii. Wii could even do 720p if Nintendo had wanted, they chose not to in order to free up power for the game vs the HD pixels.

thank you..though the Game cube being more powerful than the PS2 is debatable on what your doing with each machine, in processing power the game cube was if taking just one of the PS2's processors but not both at once. the PS2 also had the faster bus speed. both machines were fantastic no doubt.

That's just the cpu, when you also factor in the better gpu and memory, gcn is still more powerful.



Severance on 24 August 2010
Pristine20 said:

Lol, they realized this after the "partyz" games stopped selling?


nah, after they jumped ship into the HD systems , they act like kids who doesn't appreciate what their parents did to them after they get a little older.



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primogen18 on 24 August 2010

this just in: Xbox360 and PS3 have better graphics then the Wii *insert shock*

oh noez!

 

Welcome back to 2006 everyone, now let us all take off our thinking caps and drink a big cup of stupid!



-PaNdOrA- on 24 August 2010
primogen18 said:

this just in: Xbox360 and PS3 have better graphics then the Wii *insert shock*

oh noez!


LIES! :o