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I find it amusing when people overestimate some old franchises. I don't think DKC will sell more than 3 million.



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TheSource said:

What DK release have been on Wii? the drum thing from GC and what else?

You have to remember that Nintendo's games track pretty directly with hardware sales. The reason DKC 1 is so much higher than DKC2-3 is that SNES had its last big Christmas in 1994 and had slowed pretty quickly.

Based on some research SNES sold roughly like this in the USA:

1991 : 3.1m

1992: 7m

1993: 4.3m

1994: 3.3m (Figure 200k / month Jan-Oct, 400k Nov, 800k Dec roughly - similar holiday figures to PS3 in 2008)

1995: 2.4m (300k Nov, 600k Dec roughly)

1996: 1.2m (150k Nov, 300k Dec roughly)

1997: 0.9m

1998: 0.9m

1999: 0.3m

Essentially, DKC got to be a key experience for the base that was still pretty active, and for the 7m new SNES users from Nov 1994 onward. DKC2 had fewer active users, and only 4m new SNES users to sell to. By the time DKC3 came out SNES was only sold to another 2.5m users or so and most people who bought SNES before 1992 were likely just about done, and moving on to PS1 / N64. If you compare those figures to DK64, the stats are most similar to DKC2 in terms of active users and how many systems were sold after release both worldwide and in the USA - and thats why they both sold about 5m.

For Wii, there are going to be at least 15m new USA owners after Nov 2010 (30m at least worldwide), and the base is going to be larger than SNES & N64 combined.

Quick search... Donkey Kong Barrel Blast. It sold about 600k. But like I said, it's not a REAL DK game really.

And i wouldn't say they do track with the hardware. Just a few examples using a quick search on VGC (I could get many more if I needed to)

Super Mario 64 has outsold Super Mario Galaxy. 
Punch-Out!! on the NES has outsold Punch-Out!! Wii 
Kirby on the Gameboy has outsold Kirby on the DS.
Kirby 64 outsold Kirby NES

I just don't see it being a huge seller. Especially not 5 Million huge.



                            

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TheSource said:

If Donkey Kong 64 / DKC 1-2 both did over 5m when SNES / N64 were near their prime there is no reason to believe DKC Wii will do anything less than 5m - and I think 6-8m is likely, with 10m not out of the question. Its roughly as big as Reach / Gran Turismo 5, as there has yet to be a Donkey Kong game on Wii.


There have been two Donkey Kong games on Wii and one of them is very similar to DKCR.  I'm not trying to say that DKCR won't sell over 5 million, I think it will; but you are wrong.



 

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I think Castlevania is going to flop hard. The fanbase just isn't big enough and gamers will look to other things like HALO, LBP and Medal of Honor.



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TheSource said:

Its roughly as big as Reach / Gran Turismo 5, as there has yet to be a Donkey Kong game on Wii.


Oh really?



There are a lot of games that can become casualties, unlike last year, there are a lot of good games for each console, It must be a nightmare to be a multiple console owner right now!!!.



Source, do you know about how many DKC games have sold on teh VC?



Where are people getting these outrageous numbers for Donkey Kong's potential Wii sales?



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