I was thinking about "Talibang"...

Maybe if it was being built next to a Taliban headquarters. I really don't think most muslims associate themselves with the Taliban, so I don't think many would be insulted by that name (and that would be no fun).

well thats our constitution working for the people.

If it insults only extremists, but not Islam, it should be a lot better, it could help telling who are and who are not.

I didn't say it was automatically for the right reasons. I'm just saying that many are fearing it BECAUSE they're muslims. If a church, or synagogue, or buddhist temple was built there...no one would care. But because it's a mosque, and 9/11 was perpetrated by radical Islamic terrorists...it's a big deal. Not all muslims are terrible people. But a few bad eggs always taints the coop.

Would you get mad if a Catholic church was built next to the home of a child who was molested by a priest? Not all priests take part in that action, so I don't see the problem. In fact, I would accept them making an attempt to put more positivity on their image because like...1% of their populace affects the perception of 100% of people outside of that culture.

Same with the mosque on ground zero. A lot of people did die in 9/11. But it was caused by a man that wants the US to get out of Israel or he'll continue terrorist actions....not by regular law abiding citizens. It's all negative stigma, and once you try and understand others, the stigma goes away.

I could understand why it's ridiculous if someone put like...a Nazi building in front of a Jewish establishment..but that's because ALL Nazi's hated Jewish people. Not ALL people of Islamic faith = terrorist, and I'd bet that the people building the mosque are trying to show people that...but people are so quick to say they are disrespecting the lives lost that they just never get a chance.

As for the gay bar, I back that as well. He's probably be retaliatory because he's one of those people who jump to conclusions (he works for Fox News after all)...but at the same time, the Islamic culture is so homophobic for ridiculous reasons. If you open yourself to understand others, or at least try, you will see that some of the things we believe are just trivial and down right stupid, and this guy opening a gay bar may not be a direct implementation of what I just said, but it definitely is in an indirect way. I was quick to say that the gay bar was intolerant, because...look at the source. Like I said before, he's probably one of the people in the camp who believe the muslims are being disrespectful, so he immediately wants to piss them off. But in an indirect manner (which is what I'm getting at), the muslims will actually have the opportunity to know about the gay community, and that they aren't just sinful infidels who are godless and are going to hell

Hah, that's hilariously funny!

If he really goes through with this Ill go to his bar

That would mean that the vast majority of people that say they're of a relgion aren't. Most Christians don't follow all of the 10 commandsments or any of the more archaic laws of leviticus for example. The same goes for many Muslims I assume. The point is, when someone says they're of a religion then regardless of what you say thats what THEY consider THEMSELVES. There are so many ways to interpret holy books that its not really you're right to not call them what they say they are, because I'm sure from there perspective they wouldn't consider the less agressive members of their faith true members of the faith either. Every single sect thinks they have the correct interpretation and from my perspective I couldn't care less, since all religion relies on faith (eg no good reason to believe the things they do). You can't have the good and say the bad doesn't exist, that'd be like saying the members of the inquisition weren't Christian, they certainly were.

I'd have to disagree with you on this sort of.

While yes I agree that if someone calls themselves a ....., then yes they believe they are regardless of anything else. However, from the perspective of their actions you as an outsider can determine if they are actually following the base ideals of that faith.

In the case of Islam its even more difficult as most muslim groups don't even pull the majority of their laws from the Quran. Especially those extremist groups like the Taliban. Instead they derive their ruleset from a collection of quotes they beleive came from the prophet. (You can read my other posts on this for more clarity or look up Sunnah, which is the Sunni collection) These quotes often contradict themselves, other groups collections, and the Quran. Its completely illogical and I for one haven't ever understood why anyone with knowledge of Islamic history would follow anything but what the Quran says. (Given their Muslim of course)

Yeah I guess you're right, they'd still be Christian or Muslim by name even if they don't follow the religion properly.